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• #5152
Every interview I’ve watched that Sunak done just shows you how slippery a cunt he is.
Basically it’s been leaked HS2 isn’t going to Manchester and every time he’s asked he says there’s spades in the ground. That’s not the fuckin question Rishi and also trying to paint his family as very mild class is also another joke.
Father was a GP and mother owned a Pharmacy, they would have hardly been skint. Going by any GP’s or Pharmacists I’ve done work for that’s an understatement.
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• #5153
Yeah but potholes.
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• #5154
He's fucking thick. He's just said Farage would be welcome back in the Tories, just to give Farage the ability to say, 'Nah, don't wanna'. Basically admitting he's brought the Tory party to him, but still giving him the chance to flex and show he's got more control of the situation.
If they took Farage back in, they'd have to give him a safe seat, and they'd have to give him a Cabinet position. He'd be too disruptive otherwise. He'd be leader in months because he can outplay every one of those knuckleheads.
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• #5155
The secret UKIP coup of the Tory party is almost complete.
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• #5156
And Cameron thought giving them the referendum would make them go away...
WAC
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• #5157
Presented without comment.
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• #5158
Now kicking their own chair of the London Assembly out of the main hall for heckling Braverman.
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• #5159
^^ Assume that means returning to "good old fashioned values" like geocentrism, five elements, miasmas, humours, phrenology, leeches for all the ailments and the like...
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• #5160
Braverman going full populist and farage saying he'd join the party if she was leader, yesterday you had truss, Patel and Badenoch doing soft leadership pitches, they all know something we don't about Sunak?
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• #5161
Hmmm... Not sure I'd agree with either of those points.
The whole HS2 affair screams shambles and lack of control to me. I None of them made the connection with the party conference location. I honestly don't think they even know whether pulling HS2 or not. Being charitable they might be flying a flag, but I think it's just hapless.
As for his parents, and GP and pharmacist are about as middle class as you could get. What I think is most daming about his story is that if his parents rocked up here today they couldn't even dream of giving their children a lifestyle equivalent to the one their 1960s versions provided.
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• #5162
I think getting Farage in sounds like a pretty good idea for the Tories right now
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• #5163
And when you see the video, if that heckling fuck me they would hate it if they played for there favourite football team
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• #5164
The truth about the whole HS2 decision fiasco thing is misunderstanding how decisions are made in N10. Stuff will have been planted- ie. ‘We might cancel things’ but before we cancel them we’ll float them to sources to gauge public opinion.
Personally I hope he cancels the North just to watch the fallout.
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• #5165
Unfortunately it was all a bit of a rush getting back to my return train so no chance to stand around coughing whilst pretending I know how to smoke and hoping to pick up something juicy.
The booking in the office building was a bit of a damp squib too, some kind of start up incubator panel thing. I’ve no idea if it was affiliated to the conference or just an accident of timing and location. Maybe that’s how the next generation of sham PPE companies get started…
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• #5166
If this happens they will win the next GE. This is a horrific prospect.
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• #5167
Great look for the party of free speech, the bloke was barely a notch above loud tutting and why are the police involved in removing him
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• #5168
And Cameron thought giving them the referendum would make them go away...
Honestly. It makes me weep.
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• #5169
Seems like the police have been getting quite involved in Tories matters in Manchester this week, they have been reading the riot act to protesters and using anti terror laws to stop them doing stuff.
It just feels very orwellian.
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• #5170
His position is so weak that he can't control them and they know it. Perfect time to bang their drum and disrupt what should be a time to get unified messaging across.
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• #5171
Braverman:
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• #5172
Clearly I was being facetious. But yes, I agree it's dangerous talk.
It is very sinister, in that 'kicking out' implies it could be used to remove individual staff because of political affiliation or beliefs (or the perception thereof). Maybe it implies justification of witch hunts and discrimination because of, say, sexual orientation, gender or other protected characteristics* that certain conservative groups decide they find offensive and decide to brand 'woke'? Or maybe that funding may be cut if it appears academic research may reveal inconvenient truths (I know some of this has happened to a degree already with some commercial sponsorship arrangements). But if it becomes more overt and acceptable, who knows.
*I can see them going after these too. I can just hear it now: "We don't need any characteristics protected in a liberal society. We should treat everyone the same." You just fucking know it.
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• #5173
Yup. And he's fucked off into the distance, washing his hands of all of it.
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• #5174
Seems like the police have been getting quite involved in Tories matters in Manchester this week, they have been reading the riot act to protesters and using anti terror laws to stop them doing stuff.
It's the scene in a sci-fi movie where the evil baddie gives his acolytes unparalleled and overwhelming new powers and watches gloating as they use them to smite the forces of goodness.
But in the movies, we know there'll be a reckoning.
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• #5175
I thought this was like watching a dying star, growing super-massive with a rage of heat and light and on the cusp of exploding into obliteration
But that’s far too poetic, and these people have far, far less in common with anything as significant as cosmology
It’s simply the scum rising to the top of a boiling pan
At least now we can see them for what they actually are
Looks like a certain MP has been sprinkling his party dust around again.