bdhu

Would have thought this was more triggering

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your commitment to noughties 3T/Enve aesthetic is commendable

Burned! They are Thomson bars though

Spiritually the traces of 3T Ergonova exist in you, seek within

This is worse than some of the 'bad' examples you posted

Same amount of wrong imo

I am glad we can discuss this as grown ups.
You understand I don't like the parlee setup right?

It gives me great comfort that at least we are two

Oh shit thought it was meant to show how it should be done...

Are those bars not tilted down too much? The bar ends are pointing towards the sky.

This 1000%.

Many of the historical assumptions of bar set-up are from the pre-compact era. The ends are just beyond 90, but not much. You should try it.

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Oh shit thought it was meant to show how it should be done...

It's meant to confuse you. Point of thread is to subtly move goalposts and slowly drive us mad

I don’t think that’s the case at all, if I may say so. It’s to illustrate that compact bars are not being set up as they were designed to be used. It’s actually one of the most helpful things on the internet.

Ritchey and Zipp bar diagrams attached. Both showing dip into hood position. I think Huls and I may have a preference for even more rotation, but the point is that there is a trend to set up compact bars under-rotated, mantis style, which compromises use of the drops, changes the fit on the bike by extending the reach and leads to a wrist angle that is not ergonomic.

It’s a shame that Zipp used SRAM AXS to illustrate set-up, but I can’t do anything about that I’m afraid.

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Yeah maybe a tad. True.

Fair

I am happy I got it out of my system and that we are discussing the matter as a forum. I am also learning stuff here

You are mega helpful articulating what I am trying to say. Thx

❤️👍

i got u

Just had a look at my own bike and guess I could use some bd

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Yes but hoods are fine when bars come down 1 or 2 degrees

Thanks for taking the time to explain. I have always thought the bottom of the drops should be parallel to the ground, as in your diagram, but found tilting them upwards helped alleviate nerve pain in my thumbs, neck and shoulders.

3T Ergonova

These were so often some of the worst offenders of bdhu

Oh lord that's some nightmare content right there