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• #3427
Good info - thanks!
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• #3428
"... We had 600 people in the infantry. There are only about 50 - 60 left ... "
Channel dedicated to intercepted phone calls. Quite a few interesting bits. -
• #3429
This kind of energy
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• #3430
In another video on that channel a conscript briefly mentions being given a synthetic opiate to 'cope with stress'. Your commander also being your dealer –first few doses are free I suppose– will lead Russia to a whole generation of PTSD sufferers addicted to military smack.
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• #3431
Naval drone attack on Sevastopol
https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1586354604815446018
Russia now pulling out the grain deal, also claiming UK facilitated this attack and Nordstream sabatage
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• #3432
Something to brighten up your Monday. Safe for work. Watch until the end. I lol'd.
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• #3433
You have a weird take on what is laugh out loud funny.
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• #3434
Jeremy Bowens correspondence from the front line on R4 this morning was bleak but very good, definately put the human element front and centre, is easy to lose sight of when just watching colours move around on a map
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• #3435
That was funny considering the ruzzians have been calling ukrainians nazi junkies.
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• #3436
There is so much of this type of content now that you get desensitized. Laughter is one way to deal with the absurdity of it all. My favorite part was when the guy lost his hat as they were racing away from a himars salvo.
The other video taking the rounds is where a guy blows himself up in the brushes and then gets finished with a hand gun. You kind of almost feel sad that a person's life ends for nothing in some god-forsaken wasteland. Then you remember they are there to rape and pillage.
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• #3437
Certainly sounds like you've become desensitised.
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• #3438
Fair dos.
I don't see it as being sensitive or desensitised. I don't know anybody who is fighting in Ukraine personally but of the combat veteran people I do know they'd be horrified at the idea of laughing at enemy combatants dying, regardless of crimes committed.
Maybe it's different if it's a war in your own country though, which is a big difference between Brits fighting in Iraq for example. If enjoying videos of soliders being killed is something that helps you deal with it, then more power to you I suppose.
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• #3439
I don't know - 2nd strongest army in the world operating like that and being unable to keep a straight line driving a btr - despite the absolute horror of these bastards coming to kill civilians how can you not find this funny.
Also the more of those poor bastards eliminate themselves like that - the safer it is for everyone in Ukraine - from civilians to washing machines.
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• #3440
how can you not find this funny
Genuine question?
Because of the horrendous impact of wars on my family that we can still feel today. From stories in my family of conscription, fighting, torture, injury and death meaning I find it hard, as a distant observer, to take enjoyment from the deaths of human beings regardless of what their cause has done. There are no winners in war. When Ukraine claims victory, it will be hollow and millions will pay the consequences for this conflict.
But hey...much as I am on Ukraine's side, it's different as an observer sitting in the UK so you do you.
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• #3441
Yeah, I don't really find anyone suffering funny, even self own falling off bikes and skateboard fail videos aren't really for me unless the person comes off OK. I get that it's better for the Ukrainian's with shit like this happening, and I can see a dark ironic humour in the situations, but it's not really lulz when someone dies, it might be deserved if they were awful, it might be a shame but necessary if they've been dragged into a conflict because of some old cunt's ego, but it's not really funny.
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• #3442
That sounds like you are pretty detached from the horror ukrainians are facing. Easy to be a noble pacifist when you don't have the evil empire 300km away or even closer
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• #3443
but it's not really lulz when someone dies, it might be deserved if they were awful
Every Russian participating in the invasion is awful. And it's a rather nice way to put it. Let's not become apologetic because they're "just following orders" - this is also very lol.
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• #3444
That sounds like you are pretty detached from the horror ukrainians are facing
I am, and I'm very lucky to be so, I'm also very lucky to be able to be a pacifist. I'm not against the Ukrainian's defending themselves, or the support other countries have given them though and I'm well aware things are horrific and people have and will continue to die, but horrific things don't become funny because the person involved is a baddy. I'm not trying to apologise for people "just following orders" either, although the amount of deserters and Russians trying to avoid the draft shows they don't all want to be there. I'm glad when Ukrainian's have successes and when Russians have fuck ups, but I think it's a shame it all costs lives, even if you don't think it's a shame when Russians die, which is somewhat understandable, finding it funny is weird.
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• #3445
Well said. No arguing with that.
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• #3446
but I think it's a shame it all costs lives, even if you don't think it's a shame when Russians die, which is somewhat understandable, finding it funny is weird.
Maybe I'm too soft about this just because I remember how my Grandad never made peace with the Nazi lives he took. Apparently (I never got to talk to him about it) he used to say the dead person doesn't pay the bill, its the dead person's mother and family that does.
That said, he also spent a year in a prison camp on the IoM with Nazi PoWs (the UK thought he might be a spy so locked him up for the giggles despite being a Jewish Austrian resistance member) so perhaps he had more time to hang out with the enemy he had been killing than most.
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• #3447
Just to add, I have no doubt I'd feel differently if I was Ukrainian.
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• #3448
Time suggests the Russian enthusiasm for looting washing machines might have something to do with access to chips and semi-conductors.
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• #3449
I mean, you've probably seen the burned out truck full of washing machines, but there's also this elaborately made wooden crate:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/xpea9f/ukrainian_forces_capture_an_ammo_crate_and_were/ -
• #3450
Suggestion Russia is drawing it's defensive lines on the east bank of the Dnipro and the reasons why
https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1587726245160271873
Also prior to previous invasion, I don’t think identifying as Russian or Ukrainian was as binary as it’s made out here.