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Not particularly new but not sure if it has been mentioned. Tempting..
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what's french for gopping
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I'm generally quite anti electric cars with less than 150 mile range because i feel like they're just designed to encourage city traffic. Once you've paid for the vehicle the cost of actually taking it out for a trip is crazy low, so why wouldn't you? Why bother with the bus when your car costs less per trip.
That Ami thing does look like it could work for people with limited mobility etc though. Could shut up the deranged "what about the disabled and elderly" canard that pro car types come out with. Maybe they should make that kind of thing the only type of car allowed in cities? Limited to 28mph. Could be great.
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the parking brake (often known as the "handbrake" but clearly that never landed with the nissan design team) is foot operated
Maybe not often seen in Europe, but not unusual on Japanese and American market cars. Nowt to do with it being electric.
Americans tend to call any parking brake an "e-brake", for emergency, which makes zero sense.
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Yeh the Ami is one of those odd french cars that you don't need a driving license for in France, just a moped license and think banned drivers can still drive them
They have some really quirky features like the doors being reversed on each side, so they only had to design one panel and lots of parts being really simple to keep production costs very low
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Such a brave and nuanced take. You’re clearly some kind of 21st century Nostradamus.
Maybe we should get fridge magnets made up?
It's only about consumerism. Consuming lots of Green things is just as much of an issue.
From an environmental point of view you are better off running you old car into the ground than buying a new electric vehicle.
And the minerals for the batteries are almost exclusively mined by people with appalling pay and conditions in 3rd World countries.Compulsive “Green” consumerism is the new ”Wannabe Cool”.
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Or…. The lease on my massive v6 diesel Range Rover was up and there was no option to buy, so I swapped for an electric vehicle. Or… my wife needed a little run around car for the little one so we got a second electric car too.
People “need” new things all the time. You should try not to assume why and maybe focus your edgy opinions on people buying new petrol, diesel or hybrid vehicles instead.
I also strongly dispute the ‘run it into the ground’ spiel. Aside from the obvious local emissions piece, there is consumables which aren’t present in electric vehicles (oil etc) that continue to pollute as well as noise pollution. Then there’s all the additional plastics, rubbers and metals created and stocked to keep old vehicles on the road and the manufacturing pollutant cost of those.
It’s a lazy argument because being anti-electric cars is the new “wannabe cool”.
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How is it a lazy argument? I think it pretty well established that running an existing vehicle has a far lower environmental and social cost than manufacturing a new one
In addition I would say it is an anti-consumerism position rather than anti-electric and how is running a knackered old car ever cool, there is far more social credit to be gained from showing off your shiny new EV
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It’s lazy because it might have been true in 2015 or maybe even 2018 and it might be true for some old cars now but with the increased and increasing % of electricity generated in the UK being renewable and the increasingly green battery manufacture and recycling, it would only take around 25k miles (2yrs for me) of driving that Range Rover before the Tesla is better for the planet on lifetime emissions.
Example calcs from several studies are available. A quick google:
https://www.boundless.co.uk/be-inspired/driving/is-keeping-my-old-car-greener-than-buying-a-new-ev
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Obviously there’s nothing wrong with this.
I’m just baffled that people would waste their time trying to shame people who have decided to switch to electric that someone who’s just had a new diesel Range Rover or a brand new BMW M car delivered.
Makes no sense to me other than it’s just the new hipster thing to hate.
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There are far more environmental and social impacts than just emissions which you seem to be ignoring and you and those articles seem to be comparing very inefficient vehicles to new EV's, those all talk about 30mpg, I haven't driven a vehicle achieving less than 50mpg in over a decade, using the figures from the European Parliament report it would take me 60k miles of ICE milage (probably more now E10 is rolled out) to break even on the manufacture of a new EV. Obviously there is zero need to buy a new EV when used EV's exist.
I’m just baffled that people would waste their time trying to shame people who have decided to switch to electric that someone who’s just had a new diesel Range Rover or a brand new BMW M car delivered. Makes no sense to me other than it’s just the new hipster thing to hate.
You will be pleased to know my friends bragging about their newly leased M series get an equal level of eye roll as there is just no need to require a new car every 2 or 3 years .
My next car will most likely be EV but might be hybrid, will be dictated by whats available second hand at the time
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I would agree if you have to have a new car, say you get a company car then of course the EV is better. Do people really need new cars every two or three years as dictated by leasing cycles is more my gripe and is a consumerism problem.
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They enter the market because we are happy to scrap things that still work or could be repaired
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Why do you keep telling us about your recently leased V6 diesel range rover, that apparently you only got rid of because there was no option to buy, it does not boost your eco credentials.
There's lots of ways that electric cars are better than petrol. There's lots of ways they're the same. To some of us the latter outweighs the former. We still see traffic, the lived environment taken up with parking, close passes, engineered obsolescence, conspicuous consumption, road traffic accidents, increased road building, non walkable communities, negatively impacted public transport. It's great that you're no longer sending diesel particulate straight into people's lungs but it's not enough to put your choice into a significantly different category.
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Quite impressed with the Nissan Leaf today - nice to drive, the single pedal mode actually works and spacious enough inside for three people and a cello.
Range is joke though. 35 miles of average driving, including some motorway, saw an 80-something percent charge drop to 40. So you’re looking at an optimistic high 80 maybe 90 miles on a full charge. Rubbish.
oh yeah - the parking brake (often known as the "handbrake" but clearly that never landed with the nissan design team) is foot operated - sitting above and to the side of where a clutch would be. Its not visible from the driving position. A little bit wtf...