How do I bathroom / kitchen / extension? etc.

My pleasure, I do architecture for a frugal living..

My understanding of the use of the island is that you're there in the space cooking whilst guests/family are there so the hob goes on it with some space for cutting adjacent and pots pans, cutlery and seasoning stuff underneath it. Behind it on the wall you have the sink and dishwasher, and oven and fridge for quick back and forth between them. But that's how I'ld use it, maybe you enjoy staring at the wall whilst cooking..;)

With that much amount of space I wouldn't want to squeeze everybody on bench seating in a corner but have a freestanding or more central place for the table. Also, hate having to stand up for somebody to glide past because stuck in the bench seating wanting to fetch a glass and waiting for them to come back standing around so they can take their spot again.

You could try to integrate the island and table. Some people even like eating on high chairs but I am not one of them.

It just creates more flow imo. I tried to empathise that with the arrows on the doodle gizmo.

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It’s a freestanding washing machine but it’ll have a door covering it, matching the rest of the kitchen. I’m not some kind of drum-ogling freak.

@chrisbmx116 The bathroom is next door to our bedroom, so it’s deffo not going in there. No utility room either; like en-suites, I don’t believe in them.

The purple is cabinets for the aforementioned books and storage.
Magenta the high elements.
Can't really read from the drawing what's happening in the bottom right corner though? Window in a cavity wall?

I also reckon the steel columns are probably staying there where they are planned, but why? The walls can't bear the load? Why not just make the columns from brick or concrete inset in the walls and lay the beams on them? They're really dividing up the space right now.

Sorrynotsorry for questioning so much, comes with the job description and deformation.

Also wondering why I am putting this effort into a non paying stranger from the interwebz' kitchen. Haven't been working for a while due to an injury and reckon my hands are itching..

No sink or hob in an island is a great idea imo. It’s what we have and love it.

@ectoplasmosis I think some of your placement is a little off for a solid kitchen workflow.

toaster, kettle, KitchenAid, rice cooker, espresso machine, grinder, Thermomix and air fryer.

If you're doing it well, these should go into room high cupboards only to see the light of day when used.
With exception for the espresso machine.
A friend of mine has it built in all Mi€I€ believe in his kitchen. Came with the house/mansion. Coffee, oven, whatever, double fridge all in a row in full height cabinets. Very nicely done.

I thought about yours whilst writing my reply before.

But what do you use it for then? Cutting up and chatting, drinking tea?

Was beginning to wonder that myself…

Much appreciated tho still. I have no frikkin idea what I’m doing.

Steel posts are necessary where they are, according to structural engineer. This was the most cost effective way of doing it; could have spent £££ to disappear one of them, but deffo not worth it imo.

Doorway bottom right is into a new narrow bog in what was formerly a side passage.

Very open to hearing why…

because we have a sink, dishwasher, bins, oven and hob all on one row facing the wall. Means the sink/dishwasher/bin is really close and practical. Turn from island to oven/hob easily. From a keeping tidy perspective is easy too.

We have kitchen gadgets in cupboards and use them on the island - so today pressure cooker & rice cooker on island and me and wife can prep at the same time whilst daughter draws. Or if people are round for dinner can just have things on the island and make it easier to circulate

Tomorrow!

I'll stop now I promise..;)
Also with rehashing decisions that have been taken and a given. Still food for your thought how to deal with them..

I have no frikkin idea what I’m doing.

Well, you do because you can imagine and know how you want to use your kitchen.
I just got carried away with envisioning how I'ld want to use it.

Re: use, as @Tenderloin just described it was kinda how you designed it to begin with. Although I remember he also uses it as a bar from the opposite side with bar stools. That still gives the island the social aspect I tried to give it with my sketch.

This annoys me. They exist, so it’s not a question of belief. You don’t like them, but you cannot continue to deny their existence.

You are wrong, on both counts, of course, but I’m not going to accuse you of blasphemy.

Tbh I’m very close to. I can understand the denial of en suites, shorting in your own wardrobe is an acquired taste, but utility rooms are god sends. I’m getting close to adding another to try and reach the goal of having everything utilitarian hidden away and am very pleased I took the slice off my bathroom to have a separate laundry/baby room.

@Tenderloin s suggestions make sense.

If you really insist on no utility room then maybe a floor to ceiling utility twin cupboard with everything in it on a wall in the kitchen? Washing machine on an island is stressing me. Think of the children?

“I don’t believe in capital punishment”

He isn’t denying their existence, he’s denying that they’re right.

He’s wrong.

You up for sharing a floorplan showing your bathroom-scything?

I’ve always thought that to make a utility room worthwhile, it’s got to be big enough, and for it to be big enough, it’d delete a sizeable chunk of usable space and/or natural light from wherever it could feasibly be inserted in our house.

We also often put washes on overnight, and having the thing as far away from bedrooms as possible is also a priority.

Here ys go! TBF I have a feeling (judging by your soil pipe location) your house is laid out differently.

The only real difference here is we didn't go for bifold doors. There was a washing machine and a tumble dryer under a worktop (with doors to hide) which was used as a baby changing station and then there were Ikea kitchen cabinets above.

All done in a bit of a rush so want to redo soon.

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Thanks! Where’s the window there?

Ours is a pretty basic bitch Victorian semi, but a bit of a chode (wider but shallower than average), with a significant split-level situation, so would be impossible to carve up the bathroom to fit in a utility even if we wanted to, due to access from landing and window position.

I’ve made peace with having the washing machine in the middle of the kitchen, and hanging laundry in the side passage bog/upstairs bathroom.

We have a utility room for washing it's great. Also have a separate plant room for heating stuff. And we're going to add another utility for a wet coat / dog room by entrance soon. But space is cheap here so it doesn't remove space from elsewhere.

Yeah no window in there, could prob have put one in if we realllllly wanted it but its basically a big cupboard so no real point.

I'm actually kinda surprised how well it all fitted, it was bang on.

For my benefit, what is the argument against en suits?

The prospect of not having toys everywhere, unflushed turds in the toilet, and being able to put my toiletries where I want, instead of out of arms reach sounds almost as amazing as not having to wash my clothes where I cook.

Utility room is one of the best things we’ve done - this it in work mode and having not been arse to tidy. Shut the door and bosh. Hidden

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Shutting door is tidying.

I need to build those bi folds.

What brand pocket door?
Finishing off our specs for the new en-suite and that's one of the last things to be sorted.

Probably a separate thread soon but I will doing everything except for tiling. Demo, new walls, pocket door, UFH, wet room boarding / sealing, electrics, plumbing etc.