Bob Jackson Cycles

A friend of mine WSRN did a photographic thing of Barry W around then. Said he really didn’t love the job and wanted to just get away from it

It surely can't be a high income or secure job.
It doesn't look to be very safe either- Pegoretti and Pellizoli had health problems from breathing fumes for years.
One of my friends is a construction welder. He does rebar, girders, trusses, and has a big 4x4 with a rig on the back. I'd bet he makes a lot more money than most framebuilders, with a lot less hassle from customers, and a lot more job security.

Barry W was a world class miserablist though.

Sad day:

http://www.bobjacksoncycles.co.uk/

Sad day indeed. Guess the extra investment fell through?

Looks like it.

There's a bit of chatter over on Retrobike. Apparently it was Woodrup!

Looking on companies house you can see another company under the name Bob Jackson was formed, I'm not very familiar with some of the names but as I understand it Woodrup was one of them. I suppose it didn't end up happening.

http://www.bobjacksoncycles.co.uk/

Sad news, 85 years is an extremely long time for a small framebuilder.
On the plus side, it seems you do have one the final frames after all!

Sad day - a real rollercoaster ride over the past few months. I've got one BJ frame, and had two other frame resprayed by them. Only poped in a couple of times but it was run by some nice guys and the work was always good quality and cheap

On the plus side, it seems you do have one the final frames after all!

I'd much sooner have them carry on, but I guess that's progress.

Didn't Woodrup use BJ to paint their frames? Guess that might have been a factor. Still, sad.

Very sad... I feel that probably it now.

That’s a heartbreaker! I placed an order only for it to be cancelled when they first announced they were closing. After the positive email about the continuation, I assumed it would be fine until after new year to place the original order.

Absolute rollercoaster and sad for them to not secure the financing, they fell in a gap in the market but to those of us that can appreciate a well built steel frame I feel they couldn’t be beat regarding price to quality ratio.

Have my alley cat and wishbone vigorelli but sad I couldn’t grab a world tour whilst I had the chance. Wish them all the best & now they can retire in peace 🙂

Very sad.

Sad indeed. Looks like I won’t be getting my BJ resprayed by BJ then. Still, at least the old fellas can enjoy their retirement and they’ve closed while they’re still a respected brand.

I actually had this exact same issue on my Bob Jackson World Tour frame.. the frame makers I've taken the frame for repair couldn't believe they didn't braze the seat post to bottom bracket properly. Poor form for a brand with so much heritage - perhaps quality is why they've been having so many problems eventually leading to their demise

It doesn't have the heritage, but doesn't Brother Cycles provide this already? Reasonable quality steel, pretty low prices.

My head hurts......................

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/1221994-bob-jackson-brand-will-likely-continue-woodrup-cycles.html

It does rather sound like to tell the tale of all the ins and outs might require a family-sized bucket of popcorn...

This has turned into an absolute roller coaster...

I think this is probably a good outcome.
If they knock up a BJ with 12x142, disc mounts and space for wide tires I'd probably buy one.

If they knock up a BJ with 12x142, disc mounts and space for wide tires I'd probably buy one.

Woodrup were definitely seemed keen to stay somewhere near the general trends, as well as some very ‘classic’ bikes on show, when I saw their stand at that handmade bike show thing a couple of years back.

Perhaps, to keep the separation of the marques, reflecting what’s said in that link perhaps, that BJ will become some standard ‘stock’ frames and Woodrups will be the custom fancier-priced things. Like Isen is for its respective builders.

Or summat.

Hopefully we won’t just see badge engineered Jackson’s going forward and popular models such as the vigorelli will continue. I’m sure, as often happens in these cases, “real Bob Jackson’s” will acquire a certain cache

Yeah, I think you're right. I was half joking really.
If discs n that is what you want then woodrups already provide that I suppose.
Seems likely they will produce the BJ frames and keep them more on the classic side of things.

“real Bob Jackson’s” will acquire a certain cache

Aye, I think there's a chance that the price of real BJ frames on the second hand market will go up with folk trying to cash in on it. Atleast for a while anyway.

Will be interesting to see what sort of price a woodrups made BJ frame will come in at.

Agreed. I would expect them to be a little bit more expensive. Jackson’s pricing model may have been part of the problem

Just browsing the woodrup site now makes me quite fancy one.

I think if BJ had produced something like the woodrup il primo, ya know, with discs n that but at BJ prices then folk would have been all over that shit.
But really BJ should have doubled their prices years ago, got some new managing director in who knows what they are doing and got that palacexbobjackson colab sorted...