Lockdown 3 1/2: covid 19 is such a faff

For a quick check on what restrictions are in place:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54373904

garden meetups till about the time when the announcements are made.
Currently, the rates in London are higher than rates in countries we made people quarantine on return from their holidays. terrible sentence that.

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Currently, the rates in London are higher than rates in countries we made people quarantine on return from their holidays.

I've seen similar comments a lot over the last few weeks. I think on the surface it seems backwards, but really it's sensible, no? Quarantining still stops anyone bringing it back and spreading it further, adding to the already high rate.

Rates in London are higher now than when parts of Manchester were placed in restrictions with a couple.of hours notice. It's a funny old world

Wigan had extra restrictions when its rate was 8. Weeks this went on.

Yeah, I've been keeping an eye on that. We haven't been letting anyone stay in the house regardless, hence the gazebo now the weather is shit, if we go into lockdown and can't have garden meet ups then I'll pack it down (takes about 15 mins) but at least we'll have the option when restrictions are lifted.

Another reason why I said we don't know what the restrictions will be is that this shit show of a government àre just as likely to sack everything off that they announce today by this time next week.

I think it's the rate of change that is the concern not the absolute rates. If you're doubling every week uncontrollably your hospitals will collapse before an area with twice the infections but half the rate of increase.

It's nothing to do with party constituencies outside of London, nothing at all. #tinfoilhattime

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With the exception of south Wales this pattern also matches UK deprivation index maps

and population density no doubt.

i still can't believe how boroughs like southwark, lambeth, tower hamlets etc. have not got similar figures to manchester.

I'm not that surprised. Hasn't there been a strong link between outbreaks and factory jobs? Not that many factory jobs in London...

Well...
There's that and also the mass influx of people to university cities in the last month or so.

Also many people who work in London don't live in London. No travel in and out.
And theres also the very real thing of people not getting tested.

Stats for employment breakdown here:

https://www.nomisweb.co.uk/reports/lmp/lep/1925185547/report.aspx?town=greater%20manchester

https://www.nomisweb.co.uk/reports/lmp/lep/1925185586/report.aspx?town=london

Not as big a gap as I thought. Greater Manchester only has about 6% more manual/factory jobs than London.

Perception

vs
Reality

Well, the workforce differences are still pretty stark...

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I have to sit through lots of people saying "up north" in meetings at the moment. As someone who spent their young adult years in Manchester, and therefore being a "fucking plastic" northerner, I was responding to that rather than you directly.

I have to sit through lots of people saying "up north" in meetings at the moment. As someone who spent their young adult years in Manchester, and therefore being a "fucking plastic" northerner, I was responding to that rather than you directly.

No worries. You're speaking to a born and bred Londoner who unequivocally believes that the North is a better place than the South .

Apologies for reviving the month old chat about stamps and postage, but hey ho:

I did the click and drop thing yesterday for a small parcel, that had quite a high value.

Totally pointless, as you need to get the postage certificate stamped by a post office otherwise the compensation is unavailable in case of non delivery.

So, click and drop - no point for items of value.

Shame, as there is a specific parcel post box (with a big aperture) on the walk to my kids' school.

Also we are less likely to live near family members, so not spreading in households (maybe)

V good point.

Student population is not concentrated in one place either.

Time to declare the South London republic and stop north Londoners crossing the Thames.

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Hermes is good for this. Also, you can print your labels instore so no need for a stupid black box in your house.

Lambeth and Wandsworth will be annexed.

Lambeth and Wandsworth will be annexed

Culturally southern but infectiously northern. Sounds like Alsace and Lorraine all over again.