#blacklivesmatter racism is a human problem

Joking response aside, I agree with Aamer Rahmer that there is a valid distinction to be made between systemic, oppressive racism and (for want of a better term) ‘casual’ or less historically entrenched racism. However, I don’t agree that the latter isn’t racism just because it’s more recent than the former.

I think that racism is discrimination, prejudice or bias regarding a person because of their actual or perceived ethnic heritage, both cultural and physical.

Telling a Norwegian of Han Chinese heritage that ‘they can’t be Norwegian because they don’t look Norwegian’ is racist, even if the Han Chinese and Asian people haven’t historically been treated in Scandinavia the same way that Black people have historically been treated in the West. I confess I don’t know tons about Sino-Norwegian relations, so it potentially isn’t the best example, but I hope my distinction is clear.

seen this and it is defiantly true ,racism is a power dynamic plain and simple .

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=dIdkxYLzZDY

I haven’t been to Cali, but this is making me want to visit and understand black Latin culture better

Slightly OT but I love the way this young man is moving. Especially because footballers of colour in the UK aren't very socially active

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Just amazing to be so socially conscious at the age of 22.

Edit: @Sumo has kicked of a thread on free school meals >>>> https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/355672/

Rounding off Newhams representation of BHM

A night with Norman Jay...

Finished Reni Eddo-Lodges book last week, very well written and an eye opener I'll admit. Learned about many new concepts, how to put things I've thought about into words and how to identify patterns/deconstruct 'stupid arguments' with other white people around me. I liked the way she curls her lip at self pitying whites who wallow in guilt, pretend or real, rather than trying to make some kind of constructive difference.

Also talked to my kids (10 &12) about tokenism and/or all-white casts in movies. They saw the general point immediately and wanted to know why, got a bit angry at the evil world in general etc so turned out the way I had hoped. We were watching "back to the future" 1 & 2 , haven't seen them since I was their age myself. The only black people to appear in the two movies are the family living in Michael J Fox's house when he takes a wrong turn in time/space and his parent's house is suddenly in a run-down neighbourhood rather than a fancy one, so of course the inhabitants must be black. Interesting how I never thought/was made to think about any of this as a kid, no one discussed these things at all.

you forgot the mayor

So I did.

Now is this because a) the films were actually a bit shit tbh and I sneakily checked my phone a bit or b) I just proved my ingrained recall bias

Probably a bit of both

Short Circuit is a bit more problematic:

https://news.avclub.com/read-this-aziz-ansari-talks-to-fisher-stevens-short-c-1798286302

While on the subject of movies, my daughter put on a Disney film the other day and I saw they have now added a disclaimer about how their old films have racist elements, I never even noticed it before but apparently its been updated from this...

'This program is presented as originally created. It may contain outdated cultural depictions'

To this...

'This program includes negative depictions and/or mistreatment of people or cultures. These stereotypes were wrong then and are wrong now. Rather than remove this content, we want to acknowledge its harmful impact, learn from it and spark conversation to create a more inclusive future together.'

A step in the right direction?

Saw that in front of the original Junglebook and couldn't work out what it's referring to... Haven't seen it for years and didn't watch past the first few mins though so maybe it's obvious!

https://m.facebook.com/groups/248299012186608?view=permalink&id=1268616383488194 White people having a debate about if the word negro is offensive in 2020 I had to jump in and say its not up for debate 🤷🏿‍♂.
These types of conversations are so trying .
Its not for white people to understand just accept its not up for debate

LBC = london's biggest cunts

is there a non facebook link perchance? (fb is no friend of non-white people and is best avoided. not trying to be all gate-keepy, but fuck zuckerberg and his white supremacist enabling hell-platform)

Cannot see get to the link, by making it a debate racism becomes a form of light entertainment to them. Cannot really stand listening to lbc, I do try sometimes but I end up shouting at the radio and just gets me wound up, I'm assuming that is their point.

they're nationwide now. which is a grim thought.

It's the depiction of the character King Louis in Jungle Book, this article mentions some of the other Disney films the content warning has been added too.

Haven't seen it for years and didn't watch past the first few mins though so maybe it's obvious!

The monkeys and King Louis (orangutan) are voiced as black (by white actors obviously...).

EDIT...too slow...

Yeah I spotted something similar last night on the Temple of Doom description on NowTV. I think it's good there is acknowledgement that the film is outdated/racist/a bit shit but at the risk of being that "where do you draw the line" idiot i think flagging films will be very tricky as many new films still have outdated themes and representations in them. The film industry and the representation of people in films needs to change otherwise this just feels a bit like arse covering.

Maybe too much of an assumption but if we had a far better balance of films telling real stories about real people then hopefully these "outdated" films will become much more apparent to audiences without them having to be told.

Saying that targeting films aimed at children is probably necessary as it's totally unfair/unrealistic to expect kids to find their way through such garbage.

The UK in particular needs to make industry changes as the BFI and British TV is disgustingly under represented in comparison to the US.

These types of conversations are so trying .

I haven't read the full Wonderland article but Dina Asher Smith echoed this when discussing not wanting to be interviewed about BLM. Such a shit position for people to be placed in.

https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/dina-asher-smith-didnt-want-to-talk-in-public-about-racism-after-blm-a4573111.html

Life's biggest cunts.

Thanks, (and @SCS). I guess I just thought they were 'jazz guys' but maybe that is problematic too.