That Starmer fella...

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  • Missed the beginning, what was Starmer's opener?

    Some comical questions from Tory MP's today.

  • Is it known who's leaking all these emails and whatnot yet?

  • whats the point of a general election in 2022/near future though?

    Boris fucks off

    they pitch Sunak/Truss
    Sunak 'safe pair of hands, did furlough and eat out to help out'
    Truss cultural wars

    they win again

  • Missed the beginning, what was Starmer's opener?

    Along the lines of

    After months of deceit and deception ... His defence that he didn't realise he was at a party is so ridiculous that it's actually offensive to the British public.

    The live feed is here (for now at least), you can rewind find Starmers bit in it - sorry, not sure how to link directly to it:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/jan/12/boris-johnson-no-10-party-pmqs-keir-starmer-labour-coronavirus-latest-updates-covid-live

  • Rinse and repeat. We should accept that we are a single-party country and try to find peace.

  • Having a PM who doesn’t lie to parliament, at least so brazenly, is very important for the future. It’s more about principles than policies at this point, IMO.

    If he gets away with this, the precedent set is disastrous for future PMs and democracy.

  • Not exactly, I think Labour have a deficit of trust, reliability and all other things associated with the JC era (agree with him or not) and currently have just clawed up to a bare minimum levels, still no compelling pitch to the public other than 'we are not tories'

    Maybe once the pandemic is over might be a good time, dunno.

    Lose to Sunak/Truss now but with lesser margin than last time and then hope for a win in next one?

  • If he gets away with this, the precedent set is disastrous for future PMs and democracy.

    I think he will. Mainly due to pandemic fatigue of the public.

    Trust me I genuinely want to live in UK when labour is in power, I have only spent a few months under tail end of New Labour.

    This is the only memory I have:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwPiyXNPidQ&ab_channel=ABCNews%28Australia%29

  • Trust me I genuinely want to live in UK when labour is in power

    Keep saying this to anyone that will listen. Keeping Blair out of it for now, early New Labour ('97-'00) felt like the whole country breathed a massive sigh of relief, and (from what I remember) was accompanied by a ton of decent, relatively sizeable accomplishments.

  • That might've been what does for Johnson. A PMQs that played to all Starmer's strengths and all Johnson's weaknesses.

  • Red wall swing voters don't want to go for a pint with Sunak/Truss.

  • Farage for PM then?

  • It’s easy to think that the garden party is a bit of a non-story as people are down the pub right now, and have been over Christmas – entirely within the guidelines. But if you remember where we were back then, it really does show how outrageous the no10 position is right now. And it’s not just Johnson, it’s clearly a large number of senior figures at no10, including senior civil servants.

    A few excerpts from Rory Kinnear’s piece in the Guardian today on the death of his sister on the day of BYOB:

    …That evening [following my sister’s death from C19], as I walked alone, the streets were piercingly quiet. How sad it all is, I thought, how devastatingly sad…I walked past my neighbours’ houses; friends numbed by screentime and family dynamics, unsure how long this would all last, no access to society beyond their phones, windows open to mitigate against that lovely, lovely weather. I couldn’t help but feel grateful that my community was taking the deaths of people such as my sister as seriously and profoundly as I was. Their confinement spoke of a silent but wholehearted sympathy for families such as mine. They knew, they felt too, that we were all in it together.

    Well, not all of us, it turns out. Not them.

  • Fair play to actually remembering the last one though! Boris does far worse...

  • Your comment is illegal under the Obscene Publications Act

  • Lab +1 !

  • Going for the "lads lads lads" vote.


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  • Just so infuriating how the media are running with the Starmer beer story.

    Having a beer at a work even that is going into the evening was allowable under the rules and Starmer has been open about it since it was first reported in May last year (I think).

    It does not compare at all to hosting multiple parties with booze during lockdowns and then repeatedly lying to cover it up.

  • Just so infuriating how the media are running with the Starmer beer story.

    Their job, nowadays. Gotta protect their boy!

  • The whole thing is pure conflation, the Tories can't justify themselves so it's a case of pushing the narrative of "Everyone did it so may as well vote for us.".

  • Punches thrown but none landing.

  • Johnson’s going to swerve this, isn’t he. Lawyer not leader. Vote Labour, wait Longer.

    Starmer took all the punches today.

  • It is actually quite a good thing for Starmer if Johnson stays though, in terms of Labour's prospects at the next election.

    Johnson is not capable of delivering anything in government, and will continue to create new negative news cycles as he has no sense of propriety or ethics. He has lost the trust of red wall voters and he won't get it back.

  • Starmer took all the punches today.

    I thought he won on Captain Hindsight but it wasn't much to celebrate.

  • He also got Johnson to confirm that the full Gray report will be filed, not just the findings.

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