That Starmer fella...

he never misses

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906 days until the next general election.

Or to put it another way, 130ish average major news cycles.

For Labour to be holding their numbers and the greens to be +5, are Labour making inroads into the Tories? I assume most of the Green gain is from Labour, so they must be offsetting that loss from gains elsewhere?

Apparently Tory voters are deserting the Tories for Greens. Not sure I buy it myself, but that's the twitter chatter.

Lol. No way is that right.

Yep I'm also pretty doubtful that that's happening on any significant scale! My best guess would be (as suggested above) that some Labour voters are going to the Greens and some former Tory voters are going to Labour.

Again at a guess I would attribute this surge towards the Greens both to COP and other climate-related stories being at the forefront of the media, and Labour being shit

Not according to this ipsos-mori guy - most going direct to Lab.

https://twitter.com/DylanSpielman/status/1457679299981586434

Plenty of people still see the greens as a protest vote/single issue party and not especially left wing hence the ability for more centrist Tories to vote for them.

Whereas Labour voter flight to the greens would be because they see the greens as more left wing than labour.

It was always going to take people a while to move away from the Tories, especially having just voted for them plus Brexit and its delivery by the Tories still being a big vote winner.

Personally, I think that the biggest danger to the progressive parties is if Johnson is booted before the next election and Sunak gets in as leader. If Johnson stays they might have a decent chance of reducing the Tory majority to circa 15/20, surely the best possible result after the landslide in 2019

Sunak gets in as leader

Though seems Truss is the current front runner and she would be a disaster.

She'd be good for Labour though

Plenty of people still see the greens as a protest vote/single issue party and not especially left wing hence the ability for more centrist Tories to vote for them.

Whereas Labour voter flight to the greens would be because they see the greens as more left wing than labour.

That's my gut feeling as well. There's not a huge jump between conservativism and conservationism for some people.

Although some certainly will be going to labour as well.

This is a movie I'd pay to see.

Edit: there's a few others similarly, Raab, Hancock (as unlikely as it'd be now), Mogg. They'd be history in no time.

Thanks for this - LOT of the FBPE types repeating it on Twitter but clearly talking out of their arses. Good to have some data for pushback.

I think the polls in the next couple of weeks will be interesting. Greens have probably had a bit of a COP26 boost and those last ones haven't had the full sleaze issue flow through yet. Might see a proper labour lead yet.

Not to sound too cynical but this is good politics - Rayner and Starmer visiting Ratcliffe on day 17 of his hunger strike.

https://twitter.com/AngelaRayner/status/1458055675989434370

In the new terrain, the party has to eliminate its tendency for vagueness. It should be much clearer and more confident in pushing
policies that would help clean out the Tory stable, such as banning
MPs from having second jobs and abolishing the House of Lords.

With the Tory government bogged down in corruption, Labour must seize
the opportunity to offer a more decent alternative – to draw a huge
dividing line that sends out a broader message about the state of
Britain.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/10/tory-corruption-keir-starmer-owen-paterson-labour

I would have thought banning any individual from having multiple jobs would fall foul of employment law?

Yes I'm aware a government could write new laws but its surely as simple as this group of people is now discriminated against and can no longer have a job, there's a court case there?
Also what about volunteering where you have to sign a contract of some sort? Or doctors who might wish to keep practicing while an MP. Etc....

Ringing endorsement for Starmer from Tory MP

"Sometimes people just want a cheese and pickle sandwich on a park bench.

" Keir Starmer could be the sandwich and the bench. Rishi could do that job too."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-mps-fume-craven-lazy-25427877

I dunno, 'make politics boring again' sounds very appealing to me.

Seems pretty good since he’s drawing an equivalence with the main front runner to succeed Johnson (probably the most popular politician in the country)

Nation growing hungrier for Cheese and Pickle

Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 38% (+2)
CON: 36% (-1)
LDEM: 10% (-)
GRN: 6% (-)
via
@RedfieldWilton
, 10 Nov
Chgs. w/ 08 Nov

https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1458811870803017731

EXC: Labour takes SIX POINT lead in @SavantaComRes poll for @DailyMailUK

Lab 40 (+5)
Con 34 (-4)
Lib Dem 10 (=)
SNP 5 (=)
Green 5 (+1)

Changes with 5-7 Nov

If only:

https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1459301630097207298

Please be right.

Time to sit back and watch the tories tear themselves apart… which probably means that Labour will start a factional war to take the heat off them.

Yes! It's time for duelling EXCLUSIVE stories from Wes Streeting and John McDonnell.