That Starmer fella...

come up with some policies that address people’s concerns?

The Labour Right had 5 years to come up with policies, so should be able to put those on the table? Unless they spent all their time moaning and doing nothing productive?

Bad candidate, bad campaign, bad plan = loss. Shortlist of one, imposed by Starmer!

I just found it an odd image that was posted on Raynor's Twitter as a call to get out and vote the day before. Like, who approved such a non image?

What has Starmer done so far that indicates he can listen to voters, come up with good policies and unite the party?

Not much, but another bout of infighting is going to help how exactly?

Labour are reminiscent of the Tories in the Blair era, who kept changing leaders, but each time picked more of a duffer. Build an agreed policy platform first, then worry about who leads the party into the next election.

Can't disagree that getting some policies would be good. Say what you want about Corbyn, but people knew what he was about - still not sure what Starmer is big on.

still not sure what Starmer is big on.

Flags. Standing around with a full pint. Not being someone else.

He likes wearing suits too.

Not being Corbyn. Being competent (Richard Burgon ffs, come on). Being a bit like Gordon Brown. But not being Gordon Brown.

This is decent analysis I think;

https://www.politics.co.uk/week-in-review/2021/05/07/week-in-review-labours-hartlepool-disaster/

Tell me how you expect Labour to land :
We are in this mess because you've all been sold a lie, your lives won't get instantly better, we live ina cartoon depiction of what it is like to be English. Those who vote are voting for a past based on watching war films on a Saturday afternoon, drinking shit beer, and listening to the older people.

The world we are in is summed up by the rioting in NI and the film Away Days. Kids being sold lies and getting into aggro because of old manipulative pricks telling them they're doing the right thing.

If you read that to Burial, it could be a sweary Adam Curtis.

Just look at the front page of the Daily Mail today to realise what a state this country is in.

You need ballroom dancing too

The entire policy base of the Corbyn years was exactly this.

It was the politician that was undermined (and admittedly in some ways flawed), not the politics. This is lost on the Labour Right who spent the last 5 years salting the earth beneath their own feet rather than develop a compelling political standpoint, and/or counterpoint to the rampant populism and poundshop libertarianism the Tories are managing to sell.

Listening to voters is only useful if you're able to translate that to a clear, compelling political offering.

Mandelson, Watson and their shit gang of Blairdad grifters lack the self awareness to acknowledge that they were and continue to be most unappealing, unelectable aspect of the Labour Party.

Currently the labour party is a shitted bed, and I'm personally a little glad I don't sleep in it anymore.

Maybe there was no more to it than "people say he looks a bit wooden sometimes, here's a picture where we are enjoying ourselves"

Maybe just this once, rather than eating itself in yet another bout of infighting, the Labour Party should actually listen to voters, rather than scolding them, and come up with some policies that address people’s concerns?

What if the country have shifted so far right that the Labour party is unable to come up with policies that address peoples concerns and align with Labours political position?

Julia Hartley Brewers and Darren Grimes hot take - apparently human rights and social issues are wokeism that the electorate aren't interested in and Labour supporting things like taking the knee for BLM or defending migrants is a turn off
https://twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1390600671485902850

What if the country have shifted so far right that the Labour party is unable to come up with policies that address peoples concerns and align with Labours political position?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsEaoIeOwY8

Andrew Adonis has turned on Starmer.

Et tu, Andrew?

Can we now add the Labour membership choosing Corbyn over Burnham to the Ed/David Milliband pivotal moments list?

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Burnham has grown massively during this pandemic, I don't think he would have had the same impact back in 2016. Surely as a starting point we just need some decent policies to get behind, just look at what Biden is doing FFS, it's not rocket science.

Hardcore Corbyn nuts are going to take this as a sign that Starmer isn't left wing enough

Tories will smugly pat themselves on the back for understanding the common man so well

Centre-lefties will blame the media, vaccines, Corbyn's ghost, etc.

i.e. no one's learning anything

I don't think any of those takes are actually right/proven and I haven't read anything at all that's truly insightful about what's going on.

My guess is social media's completely fucked up global politics over the last decade? Guess we'll find out in 20 years

Or maybe just select the majority of the ones Corbyn put in the 2017 and 2019 manifesto...

We don't know what wing Starmer is on yet, he doesn't have any policies!!!

Hardcore Corbyn nuts

Cyclocrossers

Tories

Disc brake roadies

Centre-lefties

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