That Starmer fella...

Its more that it's a statement of principle. He came out with a take that's early and unequivocal, clearly not focussed grouped, it tells us something about the man behind the politician, sits within an area he's been traditionally passionate about, and speaks to the values of Starmer's Labour party and the kinds of people who should be voting for it. We should see a lot more of this stuff from him imo.

yet nothing from him regarding Pidcock's loss yesterday or alex richardson's DQ because of aero position or Cav's wins in Tour of Turkey

Amazing considering he's from Surrey. Clearly he's forgotten his roots.

Not entirely sure what was going on here (or how Starmer appeared to end up with the landlord's glasses)
https://mobile.twitter.com/StephenSumner15/status/1384120124492304390

Is weird he never identified himself as the landlord earlier but guess it was all part of the setup as I am sure Starmers team must arrange visiting the pub beforehand

as I am sure Starmers team must arrange visiting the pub beforehand

They sent him to a homophobic church to praise their work. I wouldn't be sure that they're checking in with pub landlords.

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1384157340123811853

It's a bit too much of the Starmer show at the moment. Blair always had Mandelson for the smart-arse interviews, and Prescott as his deputy for the left of party fuck the Tories interviews. And Blunkett, Beckett, Alistair Darling, Robin Cook and others who were competent at getting "the message" across. But I guess it's better than reeling out Barry Gardner.

Rick roll would of been better, the comments are cringe from the people missing the point

Is it? On TV I mainly see Rachel Reeves, Lisa Nandy and Anneliese Dodds doing the media rounds with a bit of David Lammy now and again

He is lacking the gravitas and quick mindedness needed to get himself out of a situation like that.

The conversation they had before the physical confrontation I thought Starmer handled OK to a point, although when he said 'I don't need lectures from you' (or something along those lines) it sounded pretty sneering. The landlord was clearly a complete prick though.

Why they proceeded to enter the pub after that I've got no idea to be honest. Can't say I've been impressed with Starmer's team's supposed professionalism judging by the recent press gaffes.

I don't think you need a wet finger to see which way the wind's blowing on the European Super League announcement. It wasn't even formally announced before it was universally shat on.

I can't think of a more immediately unpopular announcement and you're impressed Starmer said he's against it?

I don't think you need a wet finger to see which way the wind's blowing on the European Super League announcement. It wasn't even formally announced before it was universally shat on.

He made the statement before it was formally announced. He got his take out 12 hours before Lineker, ffs - the fact that he got there early was literally the point I was making. I almost admire your urgency to have a pop at Sir Keith but isn't it absolutely exhausting?

You seem to assume that because I've taken you up on some of your points that I have a problem with Starmer. I thought he was the best candidate in the leadership campaign and liked his initial period where he landed successful attacks on Johnson, but since then it's been a decent back into division, so when I see ostensibly Starmer supporting comments which gloss over his horrendous recent polling and jump on opportunities to flatter him I do find it quite exhausting yes, because it just represents the same old.

The landlord had every right to tell him to leave - what was he doing in the pub anyway? No one else is allowed in one. His security was the complete prick IMO - could prosecute him for assault on his own property...

Apparently Keir had basically left the pub but he heard pound coins falling though the hopper of the fruit machine and knew it was due to pay out big time. The confrontation was because the landlord had just gone to change a £20 and when he got back Keir was already on the prize board and had only stuck in 50p

I think he also gave the machine a sly nudge or that could have been the security person...

https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1384214413163470848?s=20

I'm just pointing out that Starmer's superleague take was one of the very first out there (within four minuets of the announcement on Sunday evening by my reckoning) so it's not reasonable to frame it as a herd following exercise. If you've got other reasons for misframing what he did and when then I apologise, but no obvious ones immediately sprang to mind.

I thought Starmer and Johnson were a bit premature to stand against the ESL. We’re yet to see all the arguments for and against play out.

I've yet to hear the arguments for, apart from by those involved.

Re. pubgate: Watching the first few seconds of that scuffle yesterday it looks Starmer is grappling with that guy which would have been hilarious.

Re. pubgate: Watching the first few seconds of that scuffle yesterday it looks Starmer is grappling with that guy which would have been hilarious.

Imo a great way to connect with working class voters. What's more British and patriotic than a pub and a scuffle?

What's more British and patriotic than a pub and a scuffle?

Deportation

Yeah at first I thought he hit the weights over lockdown and decided to find Covid deniers for a quick 'chat' about the benefits of centre-ground politics.