Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

do I go out now to try and get more in case I can't when we run out?

Yes!

Especially if you are in London.

Get yourself to 2 weeks worth of absolute essentials like this. Do it today if you can as things are changing too rapidly. Most shops have stock, I think Co-Op just has poor supply chain, but most other shops have enough of most things.

Why go today? If a lock down comes, you may not be able to go tomorrow.

Just get the basics, don't go over the top, but definitely go get formula for your daughter.

And that's it, it's not panic buying anymore really. Any pictures I've seen in the last few days are just people with big trolleys doing a big shop, which hardly anyone (in London anyway) does regularly. So clearly supermarkets just don't have the shelf space or get enough frequent deliveries to cope.

Restricting people to 2 or 3 of a certain item is not going to be what solves the immediate issue. People are likely now doing that anyway, they're just getting a lot of stuff in one hit where they would have done that over the course of 1 week/2weeks. Not hoarding or being excessive.

Supermarkets need more staff to man the tills and restock the shelves, and also more deliveries.

Obvious rant is obvious.

2 large sainsburys near to me in Putney are stripped bare. You literally couldn't scramble together a single meal.
No tins of any kind, no rice, no pasta, no bread, no milk, no chilled meals like pizza or anything.

We went to stock up before any lock down that may or may not happen but came away with basically nothing

FWIW I went to the shops this morning and it just made me really angry. Did manage to get milk and bananas though.

Suggestions -

If you have a motor drive out to store somewhere more remote. You might have to go a long way though.

Local, smaller stores might still have the things you need

Hit up other parents in your street and see if you can barter toilet roll in exchange for baby food

I've been to crystal palace twice this week.
What I've learned is that it'll all change now kids are off school.

Waitrose had more cuntish customers than sains but they did have more food.

Change how?

Dog food and nappies were my job for yesterday, took three shops to get them and even then in was a different food and one size too small nappies.

Oh and I’ve all but lost my (part time) job... can’t understand why no one’s frequenting a casino at the moment?

Well, previously shopping would be busier after school drop off. Now I'm not sure.

Doesn’t seem very lock-down-y...

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No tins of any kind, no rice, no pasta, no bread, no milk, no chilled meals like pizza or anything

The joys of being veggie.

There was lots of spinach, potatoes, tofu, halloumi and the things I needed.

The local Londis is exceptionally well stocked though, had rice, pasta, tinned and jars of stuff.

I suspect the panic buying is all in the larger supermarkets rather than the local shops.

A bought summat from Wowcher last year, and still get the emails - they've changed their focus from fairy lights and chintz to loo rolls and hand sanitiser.

Charity-wise, I'm very concerned about the effect on vulnerable, and especially abused, children. For those at risk from parents or guardians, this is going to be the worst of times, especially as proximity, frustration, poverty and impotent rage build-up. My Childline training has been delayed by this and there aren't enough people to answer the phones already, before lockdowns kick in.

buying a place

Prices are going to plummet I think so you'll do fine holding off.

I am worried that if I end up unemployed I won't be entitled to anything due to savings and will have to burn straight through my house deposit. Setting me back years.

• @Sumo yep good shout - for the salary sacrifice I need actual charities, so Trussle Trust seems like a good shout?
  
  

Is there anything we could do as a community on here to help people/each other out?

Saino in SE23 yesterday had zero fresh fruit or veg, toilet roll, or meat.

Woo hoo!!! Managed to buy a loaf of bread in Ely, which appears now to be the epicentre of fuckwit panic buying. No milk to be had for love nor money. Ironic when I can hear the dairy herd on the other side of the A10 mooing away.

An effective lockdown is contingent on telling everyone that there will be no lockdown.

The local Londis is exceptionally well stocked though, had rice, pasta, tinned and jars of stuff.

Said this in the Bread thread, but we have a small Costcutter near us which had plenty of Co-Op flour and yeast, when all the supermarkets were out. And a pretty wide range of other things like pickles/sauerkraut etc. Definitely glad to be veggie also

Is this chart from Imperial still the one that reflects current modelling?

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There was some mention within the government statement yesterday that there would be schooling still available for vulnerable children, but am unaware if there's any detail on how this will work in terms of who this applies to, which schools will provide spaces, teachers etc.

P. S. Managed to buy pizza and wine, so my immediate needs are met. Local Brexit pub (Union Jacks outside, Brexit celebration party, 'Leave Means Leave' posters previously in the window) was chock full of pensioners quaffing away.

Interesting to hear the differences in what shops have or don't have across the country. We have lots of bread in West Edinburgh but no mozzarella, all other cheeses seem untouched

I'd imagine HMG have their own models, but the Imperial paper seems the best available in the public domain.

Yeah, there was nothing about how that would work. Also, it is dependent on the vulnerabilities having been identified already - I'm expecting many more children to slip into this category in the coming months.

Yup Trussle Trust is the one. I'm also probably going to be there helping sort things. It's literally opposite my flat. Saying that I've been seeing more people going in and out of it recently so it looks like they're getting more volunteers already.