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• #17327
So pubs and clubs closing, you think that someone would have checked how many infection spreads there have been in those locations.
I don't think it is that simple. If you accept that the current infection rate/spread is too high then you have to stop some activities. Individually very few account for a high number so you make a value to society decision.
In an ideal world 100% of people would stay at home but the lights would go off quite quickly so you exempt electricity workers. Next people need to eat etc. The need to socialise is less clear cut.
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• #17328
I don't think it is that simple. If you accept that the current infection rate/spread is too high then you have to stop some activities. Individually very few account for a high number so you make a value to society decision.
Agreed, but except for that piece of A4 paper a few weeks ago, that was not for public release, there is no evidence based reason for closing pubs. Just, as you say, they have to stop folk mixing and that is the easiest one to do. I'm still of the opinion it is workplace transmission that is really the spreader. Warehouses, markets, food preparation, ... ...
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• #17329
Yeah I'm hoping for them to keep it open. Management are meeting tomorrow over it and the CTO is going into bat for me which is great. I feel for you if you can't go in I really I need the separation for mental sake.
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• #17330
an endless parade of millionaire "captains of industry" are being given a platform a number of news programmes where they pretend that they give a fuck about working class people while also suggesting the poor should be prepared to sacrifice themselves because failure to do so will mean they will be unable to participate in an economy that has never worked for them treats them as so much expendable chaff - interesting how none of their half arsed solutions include higher rates of taxation for people like them nor the possibility that they should perhaps discontinue their financial support for the shower of incompetent sociopaths that got us into this fucking mess.
snippy snippy.
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• #17331
We've been told that are office will carry on as it currently is which is only people allowed in the office are those who can't do their job remotely or need to be in the office due to mental wellbeing, so they are interpreting it as yes
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• #17332
no evidence based reason for closing pubs
I think the Scottish Govt published their evidence that said that pubs/restaurants were a not insignificant contribution to transmission.
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• #17333
is this good news?
It's not bad news. I'd say it's good news in response to the doom-mongers.
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• #17334
USA had loads of clusters linked to bars too
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• #17335
I don't have access to the Internet.
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• #17336
Do you have a reason to go visiting many various people around the country and checking on their internet access? Or did you pre covid?
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• #17337
Did lol
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• #17338
Are you a troll?
Is he a troll?
Access to the internet is a massive problem (one of many) for a lot of the young people who are significantly disadvantaged by not having access to the resources they get from actually going to school. It's not uncommon for households of multiple children to have zero connected devices. And if they do have one, it is a basic smart phone that the kids then have to wait their turn on to complete their homework.
A kid in my brother in law's class was selected for a program where they got to experience what it was like to apply to a university. As part of this, they had to write a 1500 word essay. They ended up writing it in an email on a borrowed iPod touch, and weren't allowed to do it during school time.
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• #17339
4% of households don't have Internet access say ONS
I'm too lazy to dig into the data to see if there is any indication of which of those million households have children or which of the households with Internet access have sufficient data allowance.
O2 felt the need to give away 10,000 mobile and 12 month data bundles. https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2020/10/o2-uk-to-donate-10000-mobiles-and-free-service-to-digitally-excluded.html
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• #17340
I'm a school governor for a primary in a ward where 40% of kids are in poverty; at least a quarter of our kids have no computers or internet access at home. Some of those may have a degree of net access through a parent's smartphone, but we certainly can't rely on it.
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• #17341
Are you a troll?
For sure. No proper username, three posts on bike related topics and then jumps into the covid threat to make cunty remarks. Classic.
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• #17342
So there are zero kids living in poverty in Italy and the government was able to provide every child with a device and access to the internet? If that's true (spoiler alert: it probably isn't), then great. If not, then try to step outside of your bubble, recognise your privilege and don't try and tell people that something easy just because you personally faced no hurdles in doing it yourself.
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• #17343
So your experience of not meeting anyone without internet access in 5 years and it's relation to how teachers should be able to teach hybrid classes was complete arsegravy?
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• #17344
Didn’t you previously claim to be from Columbia (sic)?
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• #17345
I'm amazed you can get such an emotion like disbelief over a Zoom call. Probably the state funded WiFi and 4k webcams.
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• #17346
Not to mention almost certainly not a school teacher with 30 pupils (of varying ability and motivation) at once to deal with.
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• #17347
terms like privilege
What's wrong with that term, everyone has it to some degree.
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• #17348
You do realise the lockdown was temporary, right?
And something that can change a person life.
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• #17349
Somebody is full of shit and definitely a total dick to be ignored
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• #17350
Are you? You claim to have not met anyone without internet access in 5 years, then say that you're in Italy and that was remedied by the government and that the low rate in the UK was a surprise, then seem to want to explain away Italy's even lower access rates as if you knew it all along, dispite having not met anyone without access. All that to try and say teachers should be able to teach hybrid classes in the UK because you apparently find it easy even though you can barely string together a few coherent ideas in a row.
Management at my work have interpreted what has been published so far as a no. I think I'd continue to go in if I was you and had the option.