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anywhere have data on the flights per day coming into heathrow? Anecdotally, live under the flight path and there have been hardly any for last month but loads today.

Change in wind direction?
I noticed it yesterday (I'm in SE London)

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/lhr/departures

https://www.flightstats.com/v2/flight-tracker/departures/LHR

These are the best I could find.

(Wrong thread 😬)

He should be on paternity leave for a few weeks now then

He's taking it later in the year. I assume in the difficult bit up to Brexit, but he'll be in the day after to arrive at parliament in a Mini Cooper, waving a flag or something.

Oddly, in Luxembourg most of the flights are cargo but they're coming from China or going to Russia for the most part. Guess the test and PPE imports

Majority of the flights I've observed coming in to LHR over the last week or so have been cargo flights.

Spotted this and thought of you LFGSS .... miserable bunch of nonclappeurs.

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As I understand it, the NHS need masks, gowns and gloves as well as trained staff.
Tell me how you think that clapping every Thursday will provide any of these.
Srsly, I'm interested to know.

It won’t help one bit. But the hospital staff, delivery drivers, supermarket staff and everyone else working to keep you and me comfortable will know they continue to be appreciated.

Decent pay would be decent, and a bonus for working through the pandemic. Not useless gestures

When questioned about this, a friend and frontline worker at Lewisham hospital had the following reaction: She shrugged her shoulders.
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I dont get decent pay , have worked through the pandemic and cycled to work at 6.30 am regularly . In return i have eff all but my girlfriend Working in maternity got free dominos pizza yesterday . Tomorrow mr Tom has bought breakfast for staff in hospitals from his 20million donations. Nice fella.

Sad that there is this risk for children--I guess it's to be expected that now it's a 'thing', numbers of reported cases will rise:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/29/more-cases-of-rare-syndrome-in-children-reported-globally

Srsly

Widespread, vocal approval of the work done by key workers makes it more politically expensive to leave them under protected, underfunded, overworked.

It’s been criticised for being ‘performative’ but I think that’s the point. Like protest, it’s an expression of public feeling that may sway political feeling.

Regarding the building sites that have stayed running thoughout this. I'm sure there is a case for some building projects being 'non-essential', but as stated in the letter below, many are essential, and to draw that line and then police it would suck up resources. There's been alot of flack at builders for continuing to go to work.

instantly reminded me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNksf8ByPXg

There's a broad misunderstanding about "essential work". Gov advice is that if you can't work from home, you can go to work but you try to do it as safely as possible. Any type of non-essential work can be done apart from specific businesses/activities that have been closed. So the idea that there would be a policed "line" is irrelevant.
The problem is that many building sites are difficult if not impossible to work in safely given lack of handwashing, cramped welfare facilities, dimensions of scaffolding, two-person manual handling etc.
There's also something of a problematic power dynamic on many projects. Construction workers may feel they have no choice except to go to work in dangerous conditions (even more so than usual). Perhaps HSE can get called in over sites that aren't safe to work in.

porta potties, bleurgh

RESTART STRATEGY

Still saying that under 50's are at such low risk of death that they should be excluded from Lockdown. They can restart the economy and use test/track/quarantine to prevent spread.

Over 50 STAY ON LOCKDOWN !

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-a-third-of-all-covid-19-hospital-patients-die-with-dementia-and-obesity-carrying-the-highest-risk-11980894

So the idea that there would be a policed "line" is irrelevant.

My point was that people have been pointing the finger at construction workers, as if there were a line to police, which is wrong, so we are in agreement here.

I work in construction, and felt very uncomfortable in the last week at the workshop leading up to lockdown. I was relieved when we closed even though I lost 6 months income. I was able to mitigate this hit, but I know many can't. My point is more about blame culture and finger pointing in the context of this government statement, than the practicalities of safe working environments.

Widespread, vocal approval of the work done by key workers makes it more politically expensive to leave them under protected, underfunded, overworked.

Credit where credit is due, this is the best argument I've heard for it. In the current climate, I'm not sure that it's necessary, but the point remains.

I was going to mention I remembered you worked on site.
Then I think your wording was a bit unclear, it read like you're talking about essential and non-essential work as policeable things (and that policing them would be impractical/undesirable), which they aren't really.
I agree, way too much pointing the finger at "non-essential work" when that's totally allowed. It's "essential" to travel to (non-essential) work if you can't work from home.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do#how-can-i-find-out-if-my-work-is-essential-or-not

There's a broad misunderstanding about "essential work". Gov advice is that if you can't work from home, you can go to work but you try to do it as safely as possible.

100% this. The general tabloid view seems to be that if you are not in scrubs you shouldn't be out, but it is just not the case.

Still replying that you are talking bollocks.

Maybe read some of the replies to the first couple of times you've suggested this.