General Election 2019

^ (@alialias) I was thinking similar.

I'm squeezing what's possibly my last help out of the NHS tomorrow morning, I still hope the exit poll was way off when I wake up.

Normally enjoy watching the results come in, even when its not a result I like but it seems very lacklustre tonight

I guess my view is not hard socialist. State run transport and energy sectors are definitely allowed under EU rules.

Blair and Brown probably saved public services in the UK. They delivered peace in NI. Then Blair lied to parliament...

'Credible Labour leader' is just code for 'acceptable to billionaires'.

Alan Johnson sticking it to John Lansman - https://twitter.com/HannaFlint/status/1205285005305483265

Exactly, just means Tory Lite

Overall I think they done a good job but alas there reputation will for ever be tarnished.
I think peace was coming regardless, ira funding dried up after sept11 attacks when Americans discovered terrorism ain't cool.

BBC has completed the trifecta of shitlords now as well with Farage, Mark Francois and now Arron fuckin Banks

Socialism isn't incompatible with state aid. State aid is bribing coca cola to set a plant up in your country not somewhere else. Socialism is having things that are state owned.

I am with him.

The EU has welcomed post socialist states for the very reason that they are post socialist.

Except Alan Johnson and co seem to forget their part in making Corbyn look 'unlectable' and giving gifts to the Tories by challenging his leadership and constantly sniping at him. I seem to remember that in 2017 they didn't give any credit to him for a relatively good result but tonight are giving him all the blame for a very bad one.
Not that I think he was the best choice - he was leader by accident. Had the left known one of their own could win the leadership I don't think they would have chosen Corbyn. But I also don't think Starmer or Jess Phillips would have won today.

Workington man has spoken

It wasn't Labour that won, it was "New" Labour, and there's no way the current Labour party will turn into something resembling that. Though in these north-east seats the Tories aren't making up much ground, it's disaffected Labour voters switching to the Brexit party.

I don’t think Corbyn was out of touch with this ^ I think most Labour MPs and members were.

I hope Rebecca Long-Bailey or someone can bring most of those voters back.

It would require a hard brexit to implement any sort of socialism. The EU has strict rules on state aid. Corbyn's manifesto would have breached various EU directives and if the UK had been more aligned with the European project the rules on fiscal policy.

Any sort of socialism? A decent social democracy would do.

There are no problems with the initial nationalisation and EU law. Later ... yeah, there are conflicts.

edit: we fucked

Putney goes red, small concilation for the red wall collapse

^77% turnout

Exactly

It’s all fucked.

Thought Corbyn was about to go for it in his 're-election' speech but he sadly petered out after a quick dig at the media. Wonder if he'll step down much sooner than he suggested

Good god this is fucking depressing.

This interview where the people are clearing the room behind her (Yvette Cooper) seems a little symbolic.

Looks like if Labour had stood their candidate down, Raab might well be looking for work this morning. It’d have been close 90-odd votes but the Lab candidate was never going to do much.