General Election 2019

Yeah because that’s the problem here

I really don't know how we fix this problem.

Got to say it, this doesn't diminish Cummings reputation as a Machiavellian genius.

It may not be the problem but it's a response to the problem. Did they really think it was worth chancing a Tory MP? The absolute opposite of what they stand for?

The turkey escapes!

Yeah imagine the same scenario here in Stroud, a lot of green voters despite knowing it enables Tory win..

New con voters will forget about brexit once it’s out the news then wonder what the cons are doing for them, which will be nothing

Unlikely PR will ever happen but if these figures are true, then it is defo needed.

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I think this is right. But Labour won't win them back unless Corbyn and Corbynism has been replaced with a more pragmatic approach.

It is the other way round. Tories on 46%

Starmer 1-2 to be next Lab leader.

Got to say it, this doesn't diminish Cummings reputation as a Machiavellian genius.

I thought exactly that. Considering the actual number of people who genuinely wanted to leave the EU has never been a majority in this country then he's played a very clever long game and has managed to completely dupe a nation. His contribution to the worsening shit show that our populous has suffered and will continue to suffer should never be allowed to be forgotten.

Ok, makes more sense.

Perhaps those voters wanted to leave the EU.. The dismissal of their wishes as stupid is one of the reasons why labour has alienated its core voters

The BBC is still saying 46% for Labour.

I thought it was the result from one of the seats already announced - but if that is their exit poll vote, and that's converted into a plunge in seats and Conservative gains, that's fucked.

seems to fly in the face of the facts.

In the seats announced the brexit party appear to be mopping up labour votes..

The percentage swings each way are almost the same

Ah, the 46% is % of the votes announced so far.

4-1 now, turnouts down & last 2 declared better for lab than the exit polls suggested, but still huge majority cut.

So Labour should have lied to them?

I didn't say they were stupid. I said I didn't think there was a majority to leave at any point. DC harnessed the mass discontent with politics in the public and got them believing a vote for leave was a protest against the establishment which was enough to get a narrow majority.

And from there on in he's played a good game of grinding the nation down to the point of exasperation whilst the undeliverable was not delivered. So that now the soundbites of getting it done have resonated and leave and remainers alike have bought in to the only clear message in the campaign as their way out of the mess. The mess they created.

Labour have lost Scotland in the last decade due to losing touch with their core base. My point is that they appear to be doing the same in northern England.

There was a majority in the referendum on EU membership. It's clear that Cummings understood the impact that Facebook would have on that vote.

Actually policies are very popular here.

Independence has been the big swing with SNP gathering voters who previously didn’t vote based on your choice matter with us.

I personally can see the first GE in an Indy Scotland being a labour win.