E-scooters

Minimal enforcement though. You see loads and loads of e-cycles that don't match the regulations.

this ^
enforcement needs to be stepped up in line with any legislation otherwise it's completely pointless.
my fear is of tougher legislation on people who cycle due to the bad/dangerous riding exhibited by what seems to be the majority of dodgy e-bike deliveroo dickheads and e-scooterists.
i.e. no cycling at all in pedestrian areas where it is currently permitted, mandatory helmets, etc. etc.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/motorsport/60922046

I want sure if this should be posted here or the WTF thread...early April Fool gag?

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https://official.esc.live/

eSC is creating a new movement in sport, a sport with purpose and real world relevance at its heart. Championing smarter, safer, and more sustainable mobility choices for all

The 30 riders seem to be pulled from a pretty random wide range.

rides and races forum

Indeed Tre Whyte of BMX fame is now a scooter racing boy

i'm not sure how racing around on tiny wheeled scooters capable of 100km/h is promoting 'safer' mobility choices...?

maybe when they go over the bars face first into the floor after riding through a pot-hole it will discourage other people?

Fast. Exciting. Dynamic. The world’s first micromobility racing series arrive in London at the iconic cultural destination of Printworks London, which is set to host a spectacular first of a kind racing and lifestyle experience.

vomit.

almost tempting to go and watch.

Also is it the 'world's first micromobility racing series', as I'd have thought given the wide definition of micromobility that plenty of stuff out there would have already been done?

In fact the definition on wikipedia actually rules this out as they travel over 25km/h:

Micromobility refers to a range of small, lightweight vehicles operating at speeds typically below 25 km/h (15 mph) and driven by users personally (unlike rickshaws). Micromobility devices include bicycles, e-bikes, electric scooters, electric skateboards, shared bicycles, and electric pedal assisted (pedelec) bicycles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micromobility

Sound of things to come
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/mar/31/scientists-creating-e-scooter-sound-to-help-blind-people-detect-them

A hit and run on an e-scooter rider in the Isle of Dogs, RIP to the rider.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-62294961

Christ, 9 people killed on e-scooters last year, that number feels high given the relatively small number of them.

Some interesting points made by ACSO regarding the current legislation and future recommendations
https://acso.org.uk/sites/default/files/media/files/ACSO%20The%20future%20of%20e-scooters%20in%20the%20UK%20July%202022.pdf

More from PACTS on this too. Similar conclusions
https://www.pacts.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/PACTS-The-safety-of-private-e-scooters-in-the-UK-Report-5.0.pdf

As ever the main reason for the issues made, such as lack of space for them in our urban environments, and the discussions around helmets etc. are, as usual, because of cars and their drivers

As a wise person said: the way to get more people walking, cycling and scooting is simply to focus on car drivers

I'd say 9 is quite low. 30 regions (which can be more than one city per region) in the trials, and that's before the private ones you see.

Also as ever, the focus is on the victims rather than cause of these terrible incidents.

Tackling the danger at source is the approach we use in most other areas of life
What is more useful, to number crime victims and legislate around, them or crime perps?
Do we expect passers by next to construction sites to wear protections against bricks dropping on them, or do we ensure the builders don't drop them?

My thinking was it about 10% of the number of cyclists killed (100 ish) is that a representative number of scooter on the road ? outside of London there aren't that many around.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/electrek.co/2022/09/08/razor-ecosmart-cargo-electric-scooter/amp/

a new 20mph sit on electric scooter from razor -
1000w mid mounted motor, carries 2 adults.
the single rear mechanical disc brake is a weird choice, I'm not sure why they've decided it doesn't need a front brake?

aside from that I quite like the form factor, looks like a lightweight Honda Ruckus.

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You would receive points on your licence and have it confiscated for trying to ride that in the UK.
It's an electric moped, not ebike so would require registration, MOT, other provisions to make it road legal
Obviously escooters are as illegal anyway but just feels this one is blurring the lines between moped with no reg plate and an escooter

You would receive points on your licence and have it confiscated for trying to ride that in the UK.

Or more likely it would be ignored. You see loads of people on dubious sit on electric scooters on the roads.

Many of which are clearly doing more than 15mph too

Something like that burned past me on a cycle path the other day. It must have been doing ~30mph. Had quite a comedy sounding horn though, which was nice.

oh yeah, I realise all of that.
I'm not a fan of the stand up e-scooter generally, and I wouldn't consider buying or using one of these. I just thought it was an interesting development and from quite a major brand rather than from an unknown brand with dubious QC standards.

I'm sure there are plenty of deliveroo bro's on illegal e-bike conversions in every town centre in the UK, and these are the guys that generally seem to ride at high speed with eyes down at their phone, buzzing peds and blasting across junctions.
I'm not sure how often these guys get stopped by the police, I doubt it's very often though.
IMO it's these guys that give 'cyclists' a bad rep, as they're not seen any differently than any other person in a bike by the general public.

And fifteen years ago it was pushbike couriers giving cyclists a bad name because we all rode like maniacs and jumped every red light. Or something. Surprise, surprise, if you are paid shit money to deliver stuff as quickly as possible then the highway code isn't going to be your bible. At least with deliveroo riders there aren't any graphic designers and web developers getting off on a bit of cosplay after they leave the office.
I wouldn't worry about anyone giving you a bad rep, people will always find a reason to confirm their own prejudices.

^ who's that @ ? :)

Funinily enough I did actually bump into a deliveroo moped driver on a very quiet cycle/pedestrian route. He had stopped and was looking at his phone. I let him know the path wasn't for motor vehicles and he apologised, he seemed to be quite lost.

yeah, I get that, but I imagine deliveroo is now a lot more widespread especially out of London's London than cycle couriers ever were 15yrs ago.