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Agreed the books aren't actually good. It's a good story, but the writing is dull and procedural. I've not enjoyed the last season at all, was fully frustrated with how quickly and bluntly the ice vs fire story (the wall) was wrapped up. Last episode was satisfactory though, I guess, with a few smirks here and there. Some closure, with good results for likeable characters so meh.
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not groundbreaking
It started off so well though. Could have been one of the best TV series for decades, as good as Breaking Bad.
I very much like the books. As sad as it is after I finished the 5th one I didn't start another book for months because I felt nothing could be as good. Some of it's tedious, true.
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They should've ended it like The Sopranos
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6 feet under ending was also great.
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The finale is a 9.9 on IMDB
If you didn't like the first two seasons maybe not though. Although Gus is one of the best characters on TV and he doesn't come in until a good way through S2.
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Best show with an unsatisfactory ending is Deadwood: they cancelled the last season because things.
I can't stand not knowing how a story end. Book, film, good, bad, I still feel compelled to see it through. Unless it is totally risible like Lost or sinks into mindless torpor like Walking Dead.
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That was a good ending.
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The wrapping up, yeah, it was cheesy and winks to camera, but fuck it. It showed the "wheel being broken but actually the game starts again and how can it be different if you've got the same sort of power structure behind it all?" Dude.
As much as I think some fans online take it too seriously (cue next post saying that’s me), for example a petition for a rewriting of season 8, I also don’t understand this kind of reasoning and the excusing of unarguably poor writing. The ending was ridiculous for numerous reasons.
The writers decide to go with the shock ending being the destruction of the throne, they hint at the death of monarchy and we all think “OK, the wheel is broken”. Fine, do that, it’s a pretty good ending.
But no, cut to the next scene where this merry band of cheery cunts laugh at the idea of a democracy and let their prisoner choose their new king. For some reason though, that is not the king, that this said prisoner, has just in the same episode been trying to convince to become the king, because he is the true heir to the throne. Some how, that huge plot point which has been built upon for two seasons doesn’t matter now, because what really matters – is a persons story. Ah, how beautiful.
I could probably even accept that little piece of trite bullshit if it actually made any sense, but again, nope. All of a sudden the story that doesn’t matter is the one of the bastard son who turned out not to be a bastard at all but a king who literally rose from the dead, united enemies in order to save the whole world from death itself, fucked his aunt, rode a dragon and finally chose Westeros over love, and killed his queen (who unfortunately had rapidly turned into a lunatic). This is the story the mystical Three Eyed Raven returned to Winterfell for, to ensure this heritage was known, this is the story that his best friend and sisters were just earlier losing their collective shit over.
But forget that story you chumps! Lets choose “Bran the Broken”, a phrase that has never been uttered in the entirety of the eight year show – which itself makes absolutely no sense, because that very dude has been staring into space for two seasons and repeatedly telling everyone who would listen, that he is in fact no longer Brandon Stark - he’s the Three Eyed Raven.
And finally, just to top it off, that guy with the vacant stare who is suddenly no longer the Three Eyed Raven but Bran the Broken, utters this gem: “Why do you think I came all this way?” as if he knew this was the outcome all along. Which if we accept, means he could have stopped the slaughter of thousands of women and children in the previous episode. But he didn’t. Because?
The idea that the ending had become unwritable because of the success of the show is absurd. If they had just followed the multiple plot lines to their logical conclusion, then there wouldn’t be these glaringly obvious plot holes.
I bloody wish the show had just been about dragons and tits, then I wouldn’t be one of these cunts writing an essay on a forum.
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I appreciate your criticism.
It's good!
What were your views on the multiple plot faults of Spartacus? The original tits and choppers and swords show.
Featuring some miserable sour faced fuck from something or other getting his cock sucked while Xena watched or talked to him about something or other with her tit hanging out.
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what really matters – is a persons story. Ah, how beautiful.
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For some reason though, that is not the king, that this said prisoner, has just in the same episode been trying to convince to become the king, because he is the true heir to the throne.
Yeah - ok. That is a problem, admittedly. Maybe they should have got that dragon to melt Jon along with the throne... But then, maybe he'd have been fireproof like his Aunt, so he'd have had to have been eaten instead.
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More sense yeh. But still an absolute mess because, let’s not forget, he isn’t Bran anymore:
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"Haha, democracy, what sort of madman would propose that?" We'll just conveniently ignore that a bunch of people already successfully hold democratic elections (Yara being the most egregious offender)...
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This is a good summation: https://www.wired.com/story/game-of-thrones-plotters-vs-pantsers/
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Interesting: If you do GoT audio-only*, it sounds completely cretinous.
*through my bedroom wall, because the Young Urban Professionals next door watch it at earbleeding volumes on a Monday night.