BAUM Ristretto 54

How much for the Festka? How is the quality compared to a Stelbel?

That Festka is absolutely stunning and the Baum is far from shabby. Good luck with selling the Baum too, there's a buyer out there for it and the price isn't unreasonable for what it is at all!

54/55

thanks @Nahguavkire

Of course if you buy a bike made for someone else the first 2 points ARE moot.

ftfy

Do you have a price for frame/fork/seat post?

a challenger appears!

Although quite unlikely you could have similar weight and fit requirements than the seller. But of course buying someone else's custom is not going to bring the main benefits that the original buyer enjoyed.

Anyway going back to the subject of the relevance of custom bikes (in general), @swisschap told us that something designed especially for you can't possibly be better than something made for no one in particular, so that's us told.

That's not what I said and you know that, so I would appreciate it if you didn't lie.

there isn't an actual point in spending that amount of money on a bike beyond being able to and wanting something custom.

and wanting something custom.

Being able to read really helps sometimes.

Thanks the clarification babes.

No problem, ask me again anytime you have problems parsing a simple sentence. I would however appreciate it if you didn't just make up things other people are supposed to have said.

dibs

NEW PRICE ...... 4.800.-€ + shipping (from Madrid)

Well got to hand it to you, you know how to do price drops.

4.800.-€ + shipping .

Drop the price

I take that back.

available

Or just order a fully spec'd custom steel bike with rad paint from any of the bespoke builders you like...

Lads what is going on in this tread . The man is trying to sell his bike and ye guys have hijacked his tread craping on as to the worth and the worthlessness of his bike and no interest in buying it which I must add is a beautiful machine.how is he supposed to sell it with all the b######t that has gone on in his tread .Im sure he does not need all that guff going on .I personally think it makes horrible reading in a for sale tread if ye want to debate the pros and cons of custom frames and there costs start a tread to do so if there's not all ready one on the forum im not sure. I wish the seller all the best with his sale .

This forum with people expressing opinions..and quite valid ones at that.
Mine would be to go with rourke 953.

Yes the forum is for people expressing opinions yes but not in sombpdys for sale tread though like what has gone on in this .the man that started the tread did not ask anybody what frame to go for or why he asked to sell his own that's all he asked not for rants as to whether his bike is worth his asking or warrants his asking for that matter either. I can't believe it has gone on so long like this ridiculous stuff .

You mean in someone's for sale thread who can't even be bothered to create an account on the site?

And that results in him and bike being slated mmm mmm sound nice and fair