Late to the mini velo party!

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  • There's quite a few decent tire choices for 20" wheels. Even tubeless!

  • As @bjf says AM are still using the unique and original 17" sized wheel.

    Mine is an APB? pashley built so I though they went to 20inch. Can't remember what the F is.

  • Moulton’s are fun to ride, I have had most models at some point (no new series). The thing is for a bike that claims to be mechanical superiority they’ve had nothing but issues. Quoting myself here but this is a list of things I could think of a few years back.

    APB suspension is too low, can lead to seat tube collapsing.
    Series 1 rear forks not being strong enough and cracking.
    Early series 1 front forks where not brazed correctly. It is common for the steerer to detach from the forks while riding where the brass hasn't fully flowed.
    Paint on new models come of if you sneeze near them.
    Moulton TSRs didn't have bump stops large enough at some point (don't know years that where effected), this meant that the forks banged into the leading link plates damaging the forks. This happened to me and Moulton refused to warranty them until I threatened legal action. IMO the damage that happened to my forks and them knowing it was a design fault that could lead to sudden failuer should result in complete recall and replacement.
    Stainless steel New series rusting through.
    £500 stems that go rusty in a year
    Faulty rear flexitor on New Series that was leant to Bicycle Quarterly and ended up with a bad review. Moulton only fixed on proviso that the owner wouldn't lend out for review again...
    Rear suspension on pivot on TSR is a faulty design. Is fixed on the SST still selling the TSR.
    Early AM fork where too weak so they changed the design so there wasn't any taper.
    Bridgestone Moulton rear forks can break at the pivot. I guess this is because the aluminium can't take the flex.

  • Here was my AM and also a modified MK3 I had. Also had a Mk1, Mk2, APB and a TSR.


  • Surely you could get a chainring bigger than the wheels on the bottom one?

  • What’s the actual entry level cost of a moulton?!

  • Yes, the tire choices for 406 wheels are great.
    But 20" as a short hand tends to translate to three different wheel sizes, if not more. Before buying a second hand bike you should ideally make sure it takes the 406 variety.

  • You could use to get a tsr2 for just over £1k with a tsr30 being around £2k. A BoA made Moulton starts around £4k and goes up to £16k.

    I think the best bag for buck is the SST but the come with the ugly uni crown fork.

  • I did LEJOG on a TSR, this is taken up Shap.

  • Cough. Here's my TSR 30 build thread. Which rode really well. Wish I kept it!

  • And for MiniVelo's... I really like a nice little wheeled bicycle. They're such great fun and along with the obvious Brompton's in the stable there's been:

    It started with a Dahon Speed Pro TT (This was my Dad riding it)

    And a Cannondale Hooligan which was amazing fun to ride...

    And went electric with a GoCycle too!

  • I reckon I might knock one up using Waltly in Ti. Something along these lines.


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  • Room for 2.5" muddy tires or 2.3" slicks and fenders. Considered a Rohloff but they add a ton of weight and cost. Probably run 11 speed XTR which gets around the issues of the 54.7mm Rohloff chainline and belt drive.

  • Get a job ffs

  • If you are getting one built, it might be worth looking at getting the frame to separate so it could fit into a suitcase for easy travel/holiday* bike? All the cases I use below check-in as a normal suitcase and don't incur any additional fees etc.

    *If travel and holidays ever happen again...

  • dangerously going close to DBAD

  • In, if it is made from bamboo.

  • VO neutrino packs into a BMX bag which apparently gets under baggage regulations:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwMFu6DbgTM&

  • Not using that bag but about 6 of us did travel to Barca once with bmxes in a large hold-alls from Argos.

    Think we all had weight fees to pay but got away with not paying the expensive sports equipment charge.

  • Make me one too please.
    (am serious BTW)

  • Not sure if this is a mini velo but just bought this for a£25 from a antique shop in Surbiton that sell old bikes thought it will be bit off fun good old clean then added some bmx pedels and some wide bars and some trek stickers don't ask me why .it was a bit to plain. Does anyone know anything about these bikes.


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  • Trek stickers can >>>>>>> but the rest of it looks like a good laugh!

    Bargain at that price too.

    Tiny mudguards are too cute. Is there some sort of boss for something on the back of the seat tube?

  • Ok rid the trek stickers. Yes there is a boss on the back might fit a rack off some kind.

  • Rick Hunter of Hunter Cycles makes these rad 'Travel Trucks' - not quite as technical as the Moulton / Dahons of this world but still look like a lot of fun.

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