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• #503
While it's good to be prepared, it still makes you shudder to think that these ladders might be needed.
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• #506
Links to Grenfell are obvious here:
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• #507
Taken back for now, let's see what happens next:
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• #508
“The council invited us all to a big meeting at the Kensington Hilton not long after the fire. The Public Chemist told us that no toxic levels were found”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/multiple-firefighters-who-saved-lives-28941465
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• #509
https://grenfellsystemfailure.com/
This stage play will be harrowing, ‘scenes from the inquiry’ follow up from ‘value engineering’
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• #510
The financial cost of the Grenfell Tower disaster has reached nearly £1.2bn – 4,000 times the amount that was saved by replacing fire-retardant cladding with a cheaper combustible alternative during the disastrous refurbishment.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jul/30/grenfell-tower-disaster-cost-soars
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• #513
Terrible. I can't believe that Arconic couldn't even be bothered to send someone ...
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• #514
The level of security at Church House is a bit surprising.
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• #515
Were you there?
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• #516
Here's another article leading with a different story that's also mentioned in the Guardian piece:
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• #517
In the building yes, but not in the Synod room where it's being held. There's often lots of foreign delegate events there with metal detectors etc, but this week they even curtained off sections of the basement car park and had security people every ten metres checking ID around the rotunda.
Was that a request from the building manufacturers attending?
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• #518
No idea, but I'd imagine that decisions such as the level of security would be taken by the inquiry chair. Thanks for the info.
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• #519
hard to believe its approaching 7 year anniversary. I think I've spoken in some capacity about this fire almost every day since it happened.
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• #520
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68374811
https://twitter.com/ManuelNeyraa/status/1760723114671882707
High-rise block of flats on fire in Valencia, looks like it could have been clad in ACM cladding.
Looks to be this building - https://www.google.com/maps/place/Campanar,+Valencia,+Spain/@39.4810727,-0.4022284,150a,35y,359.44h,44.98t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0xd604f60afd2354b:0xa4aa468ba84a54f9!8m2!3d39.4818921!4d-0.3948498!16s%2Fg%2F121qyms3?entry=ttu
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• #521
Astonishing footage
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• #522
Horrific.
Spain’s TVE public television said there were more than 130 flats in the 14-storey building, which had been rapidly “reduced to a skeleton”.
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Speaking to regional TV station A Punt, Esther Puchades, deputy head of Valencia’s industrial engineers association, said the fire had spread so rapidly because the building was covered with highly flammable polyurethane cladding.
Honestly, if there are more delays in ridding buildings of this stupid cladding, whether in Spain or here or in any other country, there will be more fatalities. I really hope they got everyone out of this one, but I think one has to wait until it's fully confirmed.
Edit: The articles have been updated to confirm four fatalities. Awful.
Edit: 138 flats, 450 residents, apparently (from the BBC story).
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• #523
Further 19 missing.
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• #524
Those poor people, so sad.
From looking at the videos and seeing the falling debris it certainly has all the hallmarks of PIR.
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• #525
Five confirmed dead now.
This is/was the block:
It's located on a major roundabout, with empty commercial units on the ground floor and graffiti over the windows, is said to have housed Ukrainian refugees, among other presumably poorer people. Definitely similarities with Grenfell.
This must lead to Europe-wide action to tackle this problem much faster. The glacial pace of change in the UK should serve as a warning.
to be fair he is a FIFireE and that is not a fake postnominal! I think any nepotism claims are pretty weak in this case. but makes good news.