Isen workshop: adventures in batch production (or not...)

Does paint on titanium have magic adhesive properties?

No, but if you only ever ride your Ti bike, your steel bike is unlikely to have its paint chipped

Thanks for taking the time to reply so comprehensibly, it's appreciated.

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Good grief.

I don’t work for Isen, so can’t comment. Different people approach the paint process in different ways. I’ve said all I can from a third party point of view, so i’ll leave it at that. I think you’ve aired your grievances publicly pretty thoroughly though, which Is something you’re totally entitled to do (being the internet and all), but I don’t really see what dragging the issue out on this thread any further than what’s already been said is going to achieve to be fair.

I’m sure you will have spoken to Matt/Caren at Isen directly about this, so not sure what continuing to bring the issue up on here will achieve other than borderline trolling to be totally honest with you.

Paint gets chipped. It’s just a fact of life. Sorry if I’m being a bit blunt, I’m just stating my opinion as a third party.

I've edited my above post, trolling was not my intention. Just curious as to the different levels of finish and trying to understand things better and figure out what might be the cause of the issue.

titanium will crack near the welds before the paint has a chance to get scratched

* squints at your avatar *

Yeah probably will!

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Or you just spiral fracture the BB shell

Stupid titantium

Sorry, I've only just seen this. Spoke to Fenella, and I think you're coming down with the bike at some point next week for a chat?

I do understand where your coming from, Hoops has spelt it out much better than I could have done, but we are hampered by the paints we can get, and if you come from a far east built bike to something painted with health and safety paint, there is a noticeable difference. We have spent a lot of time trying to get the paint as hardy as possible, and use the highest quality paints we can, epoxy primers and proper keying etc, but there is a limit to the toughness we can acheive.

In regards to leaving the paint to cure, I dont know what they used on that Giant, but we follow the manufacturers specs to the letter, and we also bake them, so there is no requiremnet for us to leave the bikes to harden, so it wont be an issue that your bike was painted the day before.

Going forward, we are going to have a paint protection guide, and are looking at the invisi frame protection stuff, and may also offer that, although I have heard horror stories about it when its removed, so need to do some testing first.

Funny you should say that...

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Mercian's paint jobs seem to stay in excellent condition for decades, what do they use? Assuming they are not using/not allowed to use the nasty paint used by mass producers in the far east.

That's the polar opposite of what I've mostly heard about Mercian paint jobs

stay in excellent condition for decades

Far nastier things in the paint decades ago, when they were painted

Well not in my experience, I've owned one for 9 years and its the best paint job on any bike I've ever owned. The ones I regularly see on Ebay seem to hold up pretty nicely too. I've got an old Bob Jackson paint job that's great too, and Argos I've heard are great. Long lasting paint jobs are not exclusive to the far east as far as I was aware.

ah that figures, forgot about lead paint!

I speak from no level of expertise just from ownership.

I have to say the touch up paint Isen sent me for the black areas has been top notch.

Wicked. If anyone else needs touch up pots email us and we can sort you out.

I want to swing by the workshop to pick up a mudguard light mount. Are you in the workshop today and/or tomorrow normal business hours?

9 years could be pre newer paint rules

Toxic paint will be back when we leave the EU, don’t worry everyone.

Yes to both, ball park time?

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It is. There was were some big changes in about 2013, IRC

2pm-ish?