Learning how MTBs work: Cotic Soul

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  • I have those

    You want these though..

  • Unused sticker space all I can see.

  • Personally.... I would get something like these WTB KOM i23 rims , some mid-level Shimano or Novatec hubs, and then get them hand-built with either DT Comp or Sapim race double butted spokes.

    I think @Howard or one of the other CX crowd should know where to get hold of Novatec hubs.

  • Bargainz all round

  • At risk of doing the classic forum move of just recommending what I've used, Bitex hubs are also a good alternative to Novatec. Sealed bearings, 54poe, centrelock, plus end caps are easily changeable. @hoops also recommends them I think

  • I'll also point out those ^^^ WTB rims are for XC riding. If you want to start doing sick jumps & stuff, there's burlier options*. Lightweight wheels are nice though, if you can get away with using them.

    *such as this: http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/nukeproof-generator-am-tcs-rim/rp-prod132454

  • 54poe

    Sounds good. High engagement hubs make a lot of sense on mtbs.

  • Yeah something I really noticed on my SSCX coming from low end shimano hubs. Makes a real difference when climbing off road.
    Other pros of the Bitex I forgot to mention, light and cheap. £130 a pair and can be <380g depending on what end caps youre using, CK and Hope are both 500g+ usually

  • Personally.... I would get something like these WTB KOM i23 rims , some mid-level Shimano or Novatec hubs, and then get them hand-built with either DT Comp or Sapim race double butted spokes.

    I think @Howard or one of the other CX crowd should know where to get hold of Novatec hubs.

    I have those I23s on my Habit.

    Novatecs can be had from Superstar for £100ish the pair.

    Trouble is, by the time you've built them up and sourced some non-shit rubber for them, you've spent more than the £330 or so that CRC want for those blingy Mavic XC wheels, which come with UST tyres.

  • I have those I23s on my Habit.

    I think you have the Frequency i23s. The KOMs are lighter, and do away with the 'i-beam' feature, so not quite as strong.

    £60 rims
    £100 hubs
    £70 for a pair of good tyres

    £100 left for spokes and build, and the bonus of not ending up with a Mavic wheelset :-)

  • I thought Tester was the only person who still used UST tyres?

  • and the bonus of not ending up with a yellow wheelset

    zut alores

    plenty of folks use UST rims with whatever rubber they can find. It's the rim that makes things super easy; pair it with a UST tyre and it's a no-brainer. But I guess you already know that, right?

  • It's the rim that makes things super easy

    Main advantage I can see is not having to faff about with rim tape to get them airtight. The aluminium spokes freak me out though D:

    Mind you, I do have a 1.8kg rear hub...

  • You can run them without sealant, tyre dependent, of course. UST tyre? Probably.

    The aluminium spokes freak me out though D:

    Well, yeah, but so what? Run em till they brake, chuck 'em away. Novatec hubs will die well before those Mavics crack, assuming R-Mash isn't a 130kg masher

  • Run em till they brake, chuck 'em away

    You young people, with your disposable society..

  • No. I have a lot of defects but being 130kg is not one of them.

    As things go wild on the wheel front, I think I'm going to spray this myself and see how it goes. Going to use this spray.bike colour...


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  • You young people, with your disposable society..

    I'm doing the decent thing and running those performance tyres into the ground before binning them!

  • Yeah I don't think I'm going to get into "sick jumps and flying off mountains" -- I already have a predilection for cycling injuries (broke leg in 2 places and removed foot from leg a couple years ago while road racing, smashed my face into pavement while commuting to work about 1.5 months).

    Maybe they don't need to be bomb proof but maybe r_mash proof

  • removed foot from leg

    Impressive.

  • I hope they stuck your foot back on?

  • Not sure if you can see how dislocated the foot is...

    It's been put back together with some metal roads and is being held together by fishing wire....


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  • This is why road riding sucks ^

  • Ouch. Hope there's no long term damage.

  • Pics or it didn....HOLY SHIT NO, NO PICS

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