Seven Axiom SLX, 4-season and all-road

http://theradavist.com/2013/09/beautiful-bicycle-tys-pink-seven-mudhoney-ss-cross/#1

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Easy. Get the new group > ditch the 4 arm > get the 5 arm or something else you like > 🚵

^ This. Or just acquire 10sp, when the shifters still looked good

Firefly are really beautiful, but I believe they will not work with fitting shop's anymore e.g. CycleFit. They used to work with bespoke but no longer. They'll take fit measurements but it's just not the same. That's not to say that a Firefly will not fit the rider very well, but surely being put on a jig at a shop that is in direct contact with the manufacturer of the frame is the real deal? Also, you can have a Seven in something stupid like 8-12 weeks. Firefly waiting list is currently at around 14 months. Long ting. I'd get the Seven over anything else. Rarely seen and very swag - with that said I did see a bloke on one yesterday in casual clothes but it had a Wound Up and was soooo nice.

Or just acquire 10sp, when the shifters still looked good

But not as comfy as 11s.

Having seen some dissected Enve rims and some info on actual strength of moulded vs drilled spoke holes you really are just paying for US manufacture and Simon Smart's consulting fee.

Enve on the right, generic Chinese carbon left.

On the Serotta I had the Fulcrum Racing Light carbon things... the Fulcrum version of the Campagnolo Hyperon.

Maybe I should consider those as well.

But I do like the look of a little deep section... and the noise. Oh, I live for the noise of deep section carbon wheels, that low rumble as you ride along.

Enve forks with not enough resin present to wet out the carbon fibre. That's one way to make them lightweight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQPvb_Z2c7M

Yup, that pink works :)

I'm basically thinking Komodo pink (baby pink) with no decals or stickers at all, a Ti head badge, and to keep the rear drops, chainstays and BB as naked Ti but to paint everything else.

Pink is the new black. I had my bike painted in this color:

Why not go custom with the group too?

SR shifters & derailleurs, Red chainset & DA9000 brakes?

The fetish for complete groups is long past it's sell by date.

but why are you convinced that enve's way is the wrong way?

If you are going to drop that much on a bike there is really only one gruppo:

Enve say moulded holes are stronger; people doing destructive tests on carbon rims say not. So you pay a premium for a benefit that isn't there.

people doing destructive tests on carbon rims say not

Yes but there are so many variables in this. There are so many 'post-truth' carbon related videos on youtube.

Its similar to someone cutting up spexel jerseys and rapha jerseys and saying spexel have more threads and is woven well, its out of context oversimplification.

A brand like enve/zipp generally tries to cover all those in extensive (pro team) testing. American made is also kinda important IMO but maybe not primary. Nothing to do with quality of manufacturing.

I cannot afford or justify Enve but I wont lie to myself while riding lightbicycle rim that I am riding a superior product.

I always think Leuscher Technik must be a real laugh at dinner parties.

after you get past the bit where you say 'sorry, you're name is what?' three times then just settle on calling him luther

Rotor Uno group because it's ugly and rad

Gbp to the dollar is crap have you thought about keeping the build this side of the pond.
I can recommend Brian rourke. Great bikes and great service. They'll build to any tubeset but mainly do reynolds.

that 80th anniversary gruppo is v nice, and has at various times been on massive sale at e.g. PX and others

Don't think it's hit all retailers just yet. Prices have stayed the same at places like Sigma on Seven.

@Velocio

Phil has had it repainted but originally it was pink. He used to be a mechanic at Sigma, he will try to dig out photos of when it was new.

That'd be great.

Though I'm starting to worry already that the price of this build will exceed the insurance money... which it basically can't do.

I love classic round tube frames, and really don't want to go all Trek or Cervelo on things, but the exchange rate from USD to GBP is really screwing with the price of US custom frames when it's not a major framebuilder who can swallow the difference. Looking at Moots the problem is essentially the same, USD pricing basically means a significant premium on the frame and fork.

I reckon for £8k, we're really talking £2k wheels, £1.5k groupset, £4k frame and fork and the remaining £500 is stem, bars, and saddle.

The Seven is coming in too high.

The top end mechanical groupsets today, are probably the last version of that. They are the most mature those things will ever be. The lightest, the most efficient, the best ergonomics, everything.

I'm going to buy the very best, and today that is the old tech.

9070 is lighter than 9000, shifts faster, shifts under higher load, and allows shifting from multiple different positions on the bike - sprint shifters, pave shifter, lots of options.

I'd say the electronic scores convincing wins in each of these four areas: "The lightest, the most efficient, the best ergonomics, everything." if you were comparing it to the mechanical stuff.

Now if you were comparing first gen Di2 with the equivalent mechanical groupset you would possibly have a point - but we've gone past that point, and to buy a mechanical group now is to be deliberately anachronistic.

Yes the latest generation of mechanical is going to be (unless you listen to hairshirt Campy nutters) the best ever, but it's not "best", it's second rate now that electronic groups have taken centre stage.

Or I just don't like charging bicycles ;)

For you the fit is probably the most important aspect, so you could get a new fit from cyclefit and then get their opinion as to whether there is a stock frame that will work for you.

Or armed with fit data you could approach Enigma to make you a frame. Though of course what you lose is the personalisation of the tubing that made a Serotta and makes a Seven so special.

However fit is probably the most important aspect and that fine tuning is probably going to be lost to the other variables like contact points, tyre pressure etc. Cyclefit have done some articles about why these days they will often advocate a modern stock carbon frame over a bespoke metal or carbon one. Manufacturers fitting philosophies have improved hugely.

Or buy the Seven, recycle the old groupset for the meanwhile and replace in a couple of years.