So a "Security Guard" trashed a friend's bike

Does the "o" represent a nose or a mouth?
Is ")))" a triple chin or fish gills?
Genuine question as I've seen this many times before but never understood its meaning.

Also to set the record straight as you seem to doubt it, it's genuinely not my bike. If a power-mad nightclub security guard had trashed mine I'd be much angrier than this!

Put it another way.....if it was a car blocking the fire exit, whether it's marked as one or not, it will get moved.....and you would probably get charged a fee for the privilege.
just saying.
Even if you get anyone to take the club to task, can you prove it was him?
Copper : " did you smash this old bike up, mr bouncer?"
Bouncer: "nope officer.......it fell down the stairs"
Copper: "ok boss, sorry to have questioned your integrity, we'll be off to check for people wearing seat belts etc"

Or something

this thread has been quite entertaining

Good luck on Sunday, Sonny...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHPf8AIobtE

Armani ftw.

this has been strange - a bike gets trashed for no obvious reason and the balance of opinion on lfgss is that it was a deserved outcome because stairs or something.

strange.

Either way, having an explicit post/courier option doesn't give some random security guy the right to enter, as last time I checked nightclubs aren't generally part of the postal service, who usually have special agreements on this.

Absolutely. The point was whether you could reasonably expect the same privacy & security in this area as you could behind the 'front door' of your home. That other people - postman and couriers - might have access to it suggests not. So does the presence of a fire escape accessing the area.

None of this excuses the vandalism.

the balance of opinion on lfgss is that it was a deserved outcome because stairs or something.

Which in itself is weird because it's more 'bike has been trashed, not a lot you can realistically expect to do about it under the rather awkward circumstances.*'

* unless the club / security person / landlord turn out to be really awesome people.

None of this excuses the vandalism.

A fine line between the security guy getting it removed professionally, and mindlessly destroying it to the point of it being unrideable.

I remember a pervious topic where someone got their bike destoryed because it was locked outside someone's house in Brick Lanes, the owner of the house simply said "this is London my friend"

Right, I actually got a reply from my friend. The door situation is as such: The front door is keyed. Only residents have access. The stairwell is keyed to separate it from the other flat below, so is definitely supposed to be private. The bedrooms are keyed as the norm in student housing.

The tenancy agreement does not mention anything about the fire exit so my friend had absolutely no way to know. None of his flatmates were aware either. The first time they saw the door in use was when the security guy was destroying the bike- he was caught in the act but the damage was already done. The kicker here is that as a private staircase there's no confusion as to who the bike belonged to.

This isn't a bike being trashed outside someone's home. This is a bike being trashed inside it.

Witnesses (the other flatmates) caught the guy damaging the bike. They were home so it's not like he had no option to talk to them.

I now have the answer to this. Nowhere in the tenancy agreement is the fire exit mentioned. There's no reason to assume that is what it is. Could just as easily be a store cupboard which is what everyone thought, given that it literally opens into the residence.

It's communal within a single dwelling. No mention beyond that in the contract of restrictions. It's behind two locked doors, how much more private does it need to be????

In this situation the tenancy agreement needs to explicitly forbid, not permit, such action, or otherwise make it clear that the staircase is not subject to the same basic rights of all tenants under the Covenant of Quiet Enjoyment.

I mean, given their lack of knowledge my friend and his flat could have just as easily put a bookcase or something equally immovable over the door. I just don't get why the exit would go completely unmentioned... Also if it's leading directly into a private residence does the security guy even have the right to enter without 24h notice in writing?
As far as I understand, quiet enjoyment takes precedence over all other restrictions other than actual emergencies. So, in case of fire the door could be opened with warning, but not for a mere inspection.

I think the bigger can of worms is what the security guy was doing even being there in the first place.

Communal, yes. Public, no.

You may well find the club's lease does cover access to the landing. It certainly should.

Your friend's tenancy agreement is between him and the landlord, so the club can't breach the agreement cos they didn't sign it. The points you've made would be right if it were the landlord or their agent that bust the bike.

Oh, and don't wear the suit. To be take seriously you just need to be serious, not dress like Suggs (ask your mum).

Someone mentioned the Police previously, contact them and report Criminal Damage. The issue with obstructed exits etc. will be something that they may look at, albeit I would suspect there is no power to damage someone's property without leaving yourself liable for that damage - irrespective of fire exit or not.
For example, if you park a car in an area which you should not be in, you would not expect someone to wreck it because of the location.
Let the Police sort it out.

Richard

I think this has probably run its course now but as an aside, yes i did run a business for 6 years and i would not accept the actions ascribed to this "security guard" from one of my employees.

Fails a pretty obvious "reasonableness" test.

Tl:dr Club bouncer is nasty
vindictive socially deficient violent wanker, nobody is shocked.

London Bouncers? Good ditty by Action Pact -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MziHbdrCMQU

Enjoy

Brilliant^

Coincidentally, I was listening to that earlier this week. Old punk is hard to beat!

Has anyone ever heard of a fire exit which leads into a keyed private residence?

Doesn't sound like a very safe emergency exit.

Dude you need to talk to the police and talk to a lawyer, you can't do this yourself.

You also really need to get some good photos of the area in question before they put signs up and claim they were always there.

I would think it is a pretty dodgy HMO which likely falls short on many regs. It does not sound like something which would get sign off.