90's Cinelli Italian(?) 55x55 frame/forks (reduced/offers?)

Sorry I was stuck doing my things and my phone wouldn't stop going it was irritating me.

No problems, GLWS.

Offers? Need it gone. It's £65 but I'll take
whatever offer now need it gone ASAP.

£30?

@MCamb weren't you after these forks before?

I have doubt that it's actually a Cinelli, but I'll take it ... PM incoming.

Doh! Yeh but Phil got in there before me :)

Ideally they'd be off a 56cm frame as they'd be more likely to fit. Thanks for the heads up though!

So, I bought this frameset from Brett on Sunday. Thanks Brett, nice to chatting with you!

The question is ... does anyone have any idea what it is? I'm fairly sure it's Italian, but also pretty certain that it isn't a Cinelli. There are no visible markings on the bottom of the BB, but it is Italian threaded. I've done lots of trawling through Google images, but nothing I have found is quite the same. The rear brake bridge looks familiar, but I can't quite place it. I'd love to repaint and re-badge it before building it up. Any ideas??

The brake bridge is really similar to Gios but it seems unlikely they'd manufacture an unmarked frame without pantographs on the seat stays, brake bridge, bottom bracket, etc.

Most low-end Battaglins, Bianchis, Olmos, et al. from the early 90s featured some sort of permanent frame identification, so this is quite the mystery. Good luck.

Which Gios?

Ha, great question. I was basing my opinion from recollection of a friend's bike, however an image search for 'Gios brake bridge' suggests that I'm 100% wrong not super knowledgeable about this stuff.

Edit:

It is a bit of a mystery. If you Google Cinelli brake bridge you do get some similar examples. May be one of those bridges used on a some other frame? It was mentioned before that a 26.8 would fit, which could point to Aelle, but would be pretty hard to indentify without any markings.

The nearest I have found is a Ciocc (see attached pic). The shape is that of a "Cinelli 806" aero brake bridge, from what I can find so far. I will have more of a rummage on the frame. I haven't removed the cable guide on the bottom of the BB shell yet to see if there are any marks hidden under it. I will report back later when I've done this. Thanks for your help so far. If you find any more stuff, please keep it coming.

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I can't really tell from the original picture, does the frame have internal cable routing?

Rear brake internal routing on the top tube, yes.

I'll try to take some better pics in a bit, and post them.

Perhaps it's a French or Swiss frame. They'd switched to Italian bb's by the 90s and didn't pantograph the shit out of everything. It might also explain the 105 headset, assuming it's stock.

This looks quite similar, right?: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281798080554

Yeah, that is quite similar. The only obvious difference I can see is the braze on mount for the fron mech.

I'm very interested to see if this is resolved

the head and seat lugs look like cinelli cast !......they should be stamped with the "c" somewhere......scrape some paint off, should reveal ??

Where are you going with this? Many builders have used Cinelli lugs.

Perhaps it's a French or Swiss frame. They'd switched to Italian bb's by the 90s and didn't pantograph the shit out of everything. It might also explain the 105 headset, assuming it's stock. This looks quite similar, right?: ebay.co.uk/itm/281798080554

This Mercier looks completely different in almost every single detail.

Who said anything about a Mercier? Perhaps eBay pulled the ol' bait and switch on you.

This is the frame I was comparing:

Dibs if you sell phil! ;)

The forks a good replacement for my track fork with no brake hole (and over tight clearances)

Good luck with the build!

Nice spot, looks pretty similar.

wasn't going anywhere ? indeed my Dave Marsh 753 is built with Cinelli lugs......was just trying to help out identify different parts, as I wasn't aware that you already knew