US Politics

Michelle Wolf woefully unfunny and it plays into Trumps tiny hands.

^ You watch a different recording to everyone else or something?

I thought that, too. I didn't watch it to the end but thought it was just a series of insults without punchlines. Punches without punchlines, as it were.

It was a roast though, not a standup set per se

I've watched many roasts in the past and they're usually a great deal funnier.

It was easy har har humour for people already wanting to laugh. Witless IMHO. Why does it have to be a roast? Colbert's crew does a better job day in day out. I think it could have been a lot more incisive.

My feeling increasingly with Trump is that criticism of him should focus more on the fact that he's simply an empty vessel. His base seems to like him most of all because he's a 'fuck you' to the left and polite society. The more abrasive he is the more exhilarating that is for them. However, in reality it's clear to see that he has no principles at all and says whatever he thinks will woo his audience, whoever they are.

There's no point reacting with outrage and constantly pointing out that he's a racist and a misogynist etc, it gives him too much credit as a real person capable of conviction in a way. I can't imagine him thinking about anything other than himself for long enough to form a viewpoint. I have no doubt that he considers brown people undesirable but I don't think he's truly a racist. He'll just shit on whatever vulnerable group he needs to to get ahead. He is profoundly pathetic.

The trouble of course is that while he's distracting everyone, the really mendacious ideological Republicans are quietly getting away with murder.

I thought she was excellent :/

I thought it was brutal. And brave.

Sarah Sanders is an absolute disgrace, who knowingly lies to the nation on a daily basis. Yet it's the comedian roasting her who is copping flak for calling her out?

I though it was tasteless. And obvious.

Sanders is a complete cunt and beneath contempt. AS IF I'm calling out Wolf and letting Sanders off.

I enjoyed it, but I agree with pretty much everything she said, so no surprise there. It was more direct and explicit than usual, so interesting from that point of view.

I don't think he's truly a racist

You're wrong about this - he absolutely is, in words, policies, actions and the insults he slings about.

Maybe not you, but lot's of others are.

It was crass, but some humour has to be. I thought it was an appropriate two fingers up to some very manipulative and greasy individuals. If anything it left no doubt as to meaning and sentiment, and was confrontational to a point of having to be dealt with. We've seen a lot of good and clever humour about Trump and his arsenal of cunts that triggered barely any discourse.

lies to the nation on a daily basis. Yet it's the comedian roasting her who is copping flak for calling her out

An unassailable point.

He is a racist, I just don't believe it's an ideological thing.

Mueller’s questions for Trump leaked;

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/30/robert-mueller-donald-trump-russia-investigation-interview-questions

My take on the Korea moves is that the violent, unpredictable threats coming out of Trump's twitter account scared the hell out of the South Koreans. They de-coupled their policy making from the policy vacuum at the US State Department and made contact with the North. All the moves from the winter Olympics on have been made without input from Washington.
Whatever the outcome US influence in the area has been wasted away. Remember that "De-nuclearization of the Korean Peninsula" is code for removing the US AirForce and Navy from the area. Whatever you think of the US Military power in East Asia and the Pacific, Trump's actions are leading to its decline.
Kim's invitation to talk with Donald may turn out to be a master stroke. Will his twitter rhetoric be exposed as "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing"?

Why does it have to be a roast?

It's traditional at the correspondent's dinner, iirc.

As standalone comedy - it was meh.

It's different with the context of the setting and audience.

trump dictated his doctors letter where he was declared the fittest us president ever

Link/source?

Edit: found it. It was the long haired one, not the action figure look alike.

His doctor, front page of Graun, and probably everywhere else.

wonder if he's still 6 foot 3, a height just perfect to take him out of the obese bmi index category

In al the photos I have seen of him standing next to Obama, Trump appears to be slightly shorter and Obama is listed as being 6'1.

It is hard to gauge height from photos though.

If his height isn’t accurate, can we trust his listed weight? He certainly looks obese to me, those god awful suits attempt to disguise it.

of all things you're discussing if he's obese as if that's a bad thing about him!

If he's trying to disguise it, his vanity might be a treat to be frowned upon, but none of this should really disqualify him as a president.

the size of his hands though...

His physical condition isn't the issue, it's the fact that he's prepared to make people lie about it.

I don't know why we're contemplating is he obese, does he lie? His hair is going and he lies about that.