US Politics

Superb stuff. Not a bad night elsewhere too...

Gloating is unbecoming, but fuck yeah!

Bob tho:

This is exactly how it should be done.

Huge kudos to Younge for 'going there'.

Let that sink in.

Top punnage.

Trump voters are still going to vote for him

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/08/donald-trump-johnstown-pennsylvania-supporters-215800

He said he was going to bring back the steel mills.

“You’re never going to get those steel mills back,” she said.

“But he said he was going to,” I said.

“Yeah, but how’s he going to bring them back?”

“I don’t know,” I said, “but it’s what he said, last year, and people voted for him because of it.”

“They always say they want to bring the steel mills back,” Frear said, “but they’re going to have to do a lot of work to bring the steel mills back.”

He hasn’t built the wall yet, either. “I don’t care about his wall,” said Frear, 76. “I mean, if he gets his wall—I don’t give a shit, you know? But he has a good idea: Keep ’em out.”

He also hasn’t repealed Obamacare. “That’s Congress,” she said.

And the drug scourge here continues unabated. “And it’s not going to improve for a long time,” she said, “until people learn, which they won’t.”

“But I like him,” Frear reiterated. “Because he does what he says.”

This reality ought to get the attention of anyone who thinks they will win in 2018 or 2020 by running against Trump’s record. His supporters here, it turns out, are energized by his bombast and his animus more than any actual accomplishments. For them, it’s evidently not what he’s doing so much as it is the people he’s fighting. Trump is simply and unceasingly angry on their behalf, battling the people who vex them the worst—“obstructionist” Democrats, uncooperative establishment Republicans, the media, Black Lives Matter protesters and NFL players (boy oh boy do they hate kneeling NFL players) whom they see as ungrateful, disrespectful millionaires.

And they love him for this.

This is so depressing. Just to think that the most powerful office in the world cannot possibly be won by someone appealing to rational debate and silly little things like facts and policies and that. What sort of weird charismatic, cartoon-like and yet politically shrewd creature will the Democrats have to put up for election to win?

said Frear, 76

Election is still few years away...

we could send them Boris or Nigel...

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Trump's CEQ nominee. Makes Betsy de Vos seem like Einstein.

https://twitter.com/SenWhitehouse/status/928437272348946432

[I looked up CEQ. It's Council on Environmental Quality.]

Her qualifications are M.A., Humanities & Religion, Stanford University

The President of the USA has to be born there (hence the kerfuffle around the ‘Birther’ movement, backed by Trump, that claimed Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii). Which rules out Farage.

But wasn’t Johnson born in the US? Hatches cunning plan.

He recently renounced his US citizenship, not sure if that rules him out...

Hope not, if they like Trump they’ll bloody love Johnson.

And we get rid of the incompetent, venal, self serving, arrogant, racist, privileged wanker.

I'm not sure if this should be here or epic win

Ha ha!

And a great graphic on hand signals.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-strange-pleasure-of-seeing-carter-page-set-himself-on-fire

that would be even better if it was true.

It's a strange mix of pity and entertainment to see someone so ignorantly out of touch with what's actually going on in the world.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08wn9mj

(Aside from the sexism, racism, disablism, religious bigotry, and unapologetic elitism)

Just finished reading the president Pence delusion in the New Yorker.

It’s like having to make a decision whether you want aids or cancer with your bowl of cereal for breakfast.

Prof Mifsud (who has disappeared) target of FBI investigations pictured with Boris Johnson who Boris denied ever meeting last week.

There is nothing to see here move along now.

Small world. Mifsud's mate there.

Impressively shameless