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• #17627
What does it say for Trump?
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• #17628
The latest polling looks bad because of the Palestine effect. But Biden will fix that somehow or other. He may be a self-proclaimed Zionist, but he's a pragmatist first. His fundamentals are sound: the economy is strong, he has a massive war chest and nearly all Presidents win a second term. Whereas Trump has had 7 losses in a row https://finance.yahoo.com/news/7-trump-losses-in-a-row-and-counting-195434518.html
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• #17629
They don't label the x axis tho.
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• #17631
Thanks! Tried to find it out myself but didn't work.
As Colin Jost said this weekend, paraphrased, one guy is old and the other guy owes 500 million for tax fraud, 100 million for defemation of his rape victim, and is currently in court for election finance crimes involving paying hush money to a porn star and the race is close..?!
Not withstanding a pending trial for an attempted insurection.
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• #17632
The mind boggles, doesn't it?
Mind you, I have five words for you - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson. A serial adulterer and philanderer, habitual liar and a man for whom personal integrity and intellectual honesty are wholly alien concepts. Didn't stop him from getting elected to the highest office in the good old U of K with a thumping majority. It's not the same, but he's in the same bit of the Venn diagram of elected shitbags.
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• #17633
Johnson did more harm to the UK than Trump did to the US. And he had enough education to understand the consequences of his lies. They should both be jailed for treason.
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• #17634
Offences constituting high treason include plotting the murder of the sovereign; committing adultery with the sovereign's consort, with the sovereign's eldest unmarried daughter, or with the wife of the heir to the throne; levying war against the sovereign and adhering to the sovereign's enemies, giving them aid o refers to disloyalty
Did Boris try to have sex with Camilla or Prince Philip?
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• #17635
I know there is a difference between treason and high treason but I would assume Boris is more corrupt than treasonous. Could Liz Truss fucking the economy and thus helping our enemies also be considered treason?
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• #17636
Johnson did more harm to the UK than Trump did to the US.
Debatable but I disageee. trump changed the political landscape for a generation, wrecked the remaining system of checks and balances, normalised hate, trashed the US’ not impecable but good reputation for honouring its alliances and treaty commitments, brought the US to the literal brink of civil war, weakened the relatively peaceful world order and emboldened Russia, sold naval nuclear secrets to the Saudis, and dismantled the international disease surveillance programme that could have changed the course of covid.
I’d argue he’s one of the singularly most damaging individuals of our time.
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• #17637
I know there is a difference between treason and high treason but I would assume Boris is more corrupt than treasonous. Could Liz Truss fucking the economy and thus helping our enemies also be considered treason?
Put yourself in Russian shoes & consider any overtures you may make to those two. You'd be over the moon that you have a greedy & corrupt liar AND a total fucking idiot cos that means both are malleable.
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• #17638
I am not disputing this at all, just that it is unlikely Boris will be jailed for treason.
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• #17639
Eton and Oxbridge alumni are never jailed for treason, they are allowed to quietly flee the country instead.
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• #17640
Same could be said for graft and corruption.
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• #17641
Johnson did more harm to the UK than Trump did to the US
Gonna need to see the working out on this one
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• #17642
Trump fined for multiple breaches of gagging order. Unsurprising. But surely they need to make the fine actually mean something. 9 grand is a paltry sum vs what he will get back from the cultists after the headline about the 9 grand. I would have thought he will get a net gain from this each time, so it suits him to keep going?
Actually, I am surprised... ONLY 9 breaches? Was he asleep the rest of the time?
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• #17643
I forgot to add that the other guy with the issues is also old.
Yes, all over the world we apparently get the politicians we deserve. Saying that as a Dutchman, which just voted the most persistent right wing populist in power, living in Germany, which is grappling with their own rise of the extreme right.
Just as a sidebar, the European election posters of the AfD say "our country first" on the backdrop of a German flag. And that slogan draws around 20%..
So to take the UK as an example, the rightwing crazies really need to fuck everything up till people get the message. Grim. And in the Netherlands the moderate right wing already destroyed enough in their last 14 years in power..
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• #17644
These parties are financed by Putin:
While in Britain, Putin pursued his agenda of weakening Europe through 'Brexit' and launching politicians under his influence through the vulnerable FPTP system, in countries with proportional representation the strategy has been to build up these 'parties' by targeting groups previously comprised under the umbrella of other parties, which have accordingly lost influence. This hasn't been too difficult in countries in which social democracy was subverted by the likes of Schröder in the 1990s (also see Schröder's links to Putin now) and protest parties can now also attract votes from groups previously on the left.
It's not totally different from the playbook in FPTP countries, e.g. Trump bizarrely portraying himself as a champion for working-class voters, and there's no doubt that this weakening of the left is highly significant for helping such parties pass crucial electoral milestones, just as it helped Trump and even Johnson.
It may be that this agenda is currently dead in Britain, but we have yet to see the next generation of potential powerbrokers reveal their cards. In Germany, it will be interesting if Wagenknecht's new strategy (a leftwing anti-immigration party intended to take votes from the rightwing anti-immigration AfD, for those who don't know, while Rodolfo no doubt does) will have any impact.
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• #17646
Trump’s proposals are terrifying. But they’re also remarkably incoherent. What’s most striking in the interview is that Trump, even after four years as president, has virtually no grasp on any policy issue beyond empty talking points, most of which are lies. When asked how he will implement his plans, he waffles, obfuscates, and delivers a stream of non sequitur boasts about how great he is or about how other people have said that he’s great. He lies all the time, but many of his statements on core policy issues are so garbled and gassy they don’t even qualify as lies. It’s like interacting with a chatbot programmed by a fascist parrot.
https://www.publicnotice.co/p/trump-time-magazine-interview-2024?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
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• #17647
None of that will register with the people who bite for him.
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• #17648
Full interview here
https://time.com/6972021/donald-trump-2024-election-interview/
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• #17649
@KristiNoem corrects record, states it was actually Thanos that she
met and stared down. "Purple motherfucker didn't know what he was
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• #17650
Kristie Noem as a VP would have immense entertainment value.
No, but the the odds on Biden have shortened dramatically.
Implied chance at about 42.5% on Betfair exchange.
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