Labour Leadership 2016

I had my photo taken with BoJo also, does that mean I'm officially an agent provocateur?

It sounds like you have a way of getting into decent chances of a free drink.

(but ffs drop the cunt, he's toast)

I'm just an ordinary member - I did some Remain leafleting for the local Labour MP. I have clicked on the 'I'm not voting for you pal' link on numerous Owen Smith mailers. I'm on the Momentum campaigners volunteer list.

That's your problem right there...
My better half got a vote despite co-habiting with a dirty green party member (me)

probably, sad but true

I read on twitter someone got banned, the reason in the letter being something along the lines of 'expressing support to the Green Party in 2014'.

They must be throwing considerable (consultant presumably) manpower at trawling through the members list and searching individually for reasons to ban them...

I voted Green in 2015.

Let's see if they can work out my real life identity and suspend me from this post.

Fucking environmentalist entryist scum.

A lot of what's happening right now is such a reminder of how the splits in the left occurred that weakened it so much. Jeremy Corbyn, of course, lived through all of this and will be acutely aware of the history. Old battles are being re-fought, such as that over unilateral disarmament. This affected the German left very much, too. It's interesting to remember that the German Greens had their origin in the Peace Movement, which effectively renounced the German SPD when Helmut Schmidt, then the Federal Chancellor, supported the development of a response to the Soviet Union's deployment of SS-20 missiles in Eastern Europe. This led to the NATO Double-Track Decision. In the political turmoil that followed, Schmidt, ironically, was deserted by the FDP, his coalition partner, ushering in 16 disastrous years under Helmut Kohl.

Since the annexation of East Germany, the German left has additionally been split another way, with the remnants of the former ruling party of the GDR first becoming the PDS and later fusing with Oscar Lafontaine's Die Linke. Although, strictly speaking, the Greens are not purely a left-wing party, having distinctly bourgeois elements, especially in Baden-Württemberg, where they are in government, between them these three parties (SPD, Linke, and the Greens) currently have more seats in the German Bundestag than the German Conservatives.

It's often said that many people in this country who are Green Party members joined it because of disaffection with Labour. Now Corbyn may be setting out to heal the rifts of forty years ago. :)

#jc
#thesecondcoming

Re the NEC 'witch hunt' and calling people cunts
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/iain-mcnicol-lays-bare-racist-anti-semitic-abuse-that-led-to-bans-from-labour-leadership-election_uk_57c83796e4b01e35922a3ab6?tzndbajz74gzoxbt9

Obviously anything racist, anti-Semitic, homophobic, etc., is weaksauce lameness which should result in a ban.

Calling an imaginary person a "cunt" on social media (the very first example), not so much.

They really don't like being called traitors.

Calling an imaginary person a "cunt" on social media (the very first example), not so much.

The sentence could be taken to mean that all Blairites are cunts.

Where does this leave @greenhell

Also:

http://betdata.io/labour-leadership-2016

Didn't read it that way, but you're right. I can see it being read to mean that. But still doesn't say that.

There's also the inclusion of a tweet noting that the neither Labour nor the Tories had included a policy for building more council homes. Why would that be included as a reason to expell members?

Blimey, EB's been busy.

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Hold the front page, Corbyn's in hock to the betting industry!

There's also the inclusion of a tweet noting that the neither Labour nor the Tories had included a policy for building more council homes. Why would that be included as a reason to expell members?

That would seem to fall foul of the rule that members shouldn't issue voting recommendations to other parties? (I realise the recommendation is somewhat implicit here, but I can understand how the party would perceive this as letting the side down.)

I'm sure other parties have similar rules and that strikes me as fair enough (although it's partly because of that sort of rule that I'd never join a political party).

But it's a statement of fact, not a recommendation. Craziness, I say! Craziness!

Well, I don't know what the rule says exactly. I'm sure it's not too hard to drag up. Since they explicitly mention it, it must be a factor that the Tweet was posted on election day.

Yeah, that was my feeling. It's probably a bit of an edge case.

hilarious.

expressing support to the Green Party in 2014

This happened to someone on my FB feed too

Corbyn on after work drinks...."benefits men who don't feel the need to be at home looking after their children and it discriminates against women who will want to, obviously, look after the children that they have got".

Quote from the Telegraph so bias, context etc. Weird thing to be brining up. And that 'obviously' seems pretty out of place. Anyone know of the full text of his speech?

Comment from Burnley's mp on why she's voting for Smith
http://www.juliecooperforburnley.co.uk/the_leadership_election#

Given that Burnley voted for Brexit it may not be the most popular option (although Corbyn doesn't seem hugely popular either).

Video of the context here. http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2016/09/02/no-jeremy-corbyn-doeesn-t-want-to-ban-after-work-drinks

Seems to be pretty much what he said. Can kind of see what he's getting at but a terribly clumsy way of putting it. He really doesn't help himself at times.

Edit: Seems he didn't quite get the message across

*The Labour leader made his comments at an early evening event ...

Following the event, held at Unison's offices, a drinks party was held.*

*The Labour leader made his comments at an early evening event ...

Following the event, held at Unison's offices, a drinks party was held.*

Ha. Clumsy is one way of putting it, sexist would be another.