Labour Leadership 2016

Exactly, the undermining of Corbyn by the PLP has undermined any hope Corbyn had of being perceived as a competent leader. Fucking useless bunch of cunts.

The perception of him as being competent was hardly there before the post Brexit 'coup'. Look at that chart earlier. Since he's been leader, he's never had a positive score in the 'people think you're doing a good job' poll.

An alternative wording of your comment would be that Corbyn has allowed himself to be undermined because he's an incompetent leader.

Why did you choose those two sets of polls?

An alternative wording of your comment would be that Corbyn has allowed himself to be undermined because he's an incompetent leader.

Lol.

Did she maybe have something to do with this? Or can everything bad that happens somehow be blamed on Corbyn. I suppose it's true: if he wasn't leader she wouldn't have had to secretively organize a coup with fellow travelers and launch it at the worst possible time. What a dick he is.

I think there's four sets of polls there.

Here's the source:

http://www.markpack.org.uk/142373/jeremy-corbyn-opnion-polls/

Assuming that (as is clearly your implication in posting them) the first and second poll findings are comparable and indicate actual trends rather than different polling methods, there are four polls arranged in two sets.

I think there's four sets of polls there.

There are two sets of polls. There are 8 polls.

Why did you choose those two sets of polls?

^^ What the Schickster said.

Mark Pack took the most recent four polls at the time, and compared them to polls by the same organisations at the same point in the previous parliament.

There's a link at the end of Pack's article where you can compare other polls, maybe you can come up with something favorable to Corbyn?

You edited your post to show you didn't choose them, but found them elsewhere. Fair enough.

I would argue they are meaningless. There is one thing that make them comparable - distance of time to election. There are about a million things that make them completely different. Polls generally don't work the way he's trying to use them and I suspect he would admit that if pressed.

Polls are good for measuring longitudinal change in opinion over time. Less so as comparisons of different people/things at different times.

You've edited again.

Most polling can be found here: http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/

Not really interested in trying to "come up with something favourable to Corbyn." The reality is there appeared to be a trend in Corbyn and Labour's polling which ended with the coup. I don't think it would have led to him winning a majority. But it does raise issues re: claims he was showing himself to be a dismal leader.

I would argue they are meaningless.

There's alot of variables, so that's fair comment. I'm relieved I've not been set upon for linking to a lib-dem website; I assumed many would write the data off immediately on grounds of bias.

i'm pretty torn over this tbh...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3759906/Labour-suspends-member-party-posted-love-FOO-FIGHTERS-Facebook.html

That day Mrs Starr, 33, had also shared a friend's inoffensive poster about animal free cosmetics and a cartoon about veganism.

BURN HER

Hmmm. I went to school with the children of the YouGov head honcho and am deeply unsurprised that his organisation shows an anti Corbyn bias.

I'm currently staring at my ballot paper. It looks very blank.

I might add another box at the bottom saying John Smith. I cant help imagine what might have been if Tony hadn't had him murdered.

Actually. Fuck it. I'm chanelling @sausagefingers :

Fuck Owen smith and his media training. Fuck the hypocrites in the PLP. Fuck the liars and question dodgers. Fuck them all.

I'm voting JC.

But I have had 4 beers.

Well I have had 5, so you can't be channelling me in a proper Trotsky sort of way.

6 now.

Also, I Thought the £25 noob fee was to discourage the poor from joining, but I see now it has gone entirely on the exceptionally thick ballot paper.

Shit must be 125gsm.

John Smith. I cant help imagine what might have been

I sometimes wonder what things would be like now following his government and whatever followed.

Top pubs doe

BURN HER

Quite right too. Plumstead here, but not crack-denners!

125gsm

Wait. No.

It's A3 folded in half.

But blank on the back. Even more wasteful.

One son off to university, 3 off to sell ar15 in the mid thing. oh whatever.

That was just the lib-dem voters

Crack-homers, pls.