• My current oven is shit, temperature settings have gone so I do all the low and slow part of reverse sear on the smoker and then finish off in a pan with butter.

  • http://www.philipwarrenbutchers.co.uk/shops/ in Launceston so a bit of a schlep, but they seem to be very highly regarded and supply a lot of decent London restaurants

  • Smoked another chicken and a couple of nice bits of salmon on the Weber today... Totally didn't realise there's a BBQ ban in Queensland today... Rampant bush fires all over the place...

    Awkward... My twat next door neighbour is a fireman...

  • Thanks for this - yep, that's the one I've had recommended a few places now. It is a schlep but lovely country to drive through so got to be worth it I think. Cheers

  • Yeah well as long as you burned the fence to cook it, it's all good. Amirite?

  • I built a pizza oven last year.

    I have never built anything in my life, barely put up a shelf. But I'm pretty handy with bikes, and making unintelligible leaps, so I got stuck in. Here are a few details on the build:

    What started as this:

    Ended up as this hole once I'd decided to do some digging after an all-nighter. A couple bottles of excellent Breton cider proved adequate fuel for such an endeavour.

    The hole was filled with a load of gravel and then 6 inches of reinforced concrete after a surveyor friend said I might as well chuck some rebar in there as the final thing was going to weigh well over a shit load.

    Once that was all set a friend who had laid a brick or two in the previous millennium gave me a hand to do some block work. Breton cider (it really is excellent) fuelled us once more, to the detriment of the block work unfortunately. What it lacked in straight it had strength though.

    A bit of form work later...

    ... I had a concrete slab to work on.

    Then I put a 25mm vermiculite board down, and then a few fire bricks salvaged from storage heaters. Then I started to make my mould for the oven. For this I used an old maple syrup drum (it smelled delicious when I was angle grinding the shit out of it). I cut it slightly more than in half along its length as I wanted more height than half the drum would give me. After some advice from an oven builder I intended to make the mould removable once the first fire clay layer was set. So I replaced the ends of the drum with some old worktop (this whole process was made much easier by having some brickies build a kitchen extension for me at the same time, so an abundance of tools, advice, waste materials and piss taking).

    The idea was that once the fire clay was set I could reach in the oven, smash out the front piece of worktop, remove it and then remove the rear one by fixing a rope to the old drawer handle I screwed into it and giving it a good yank. Then, the two 'rib' pieces of drum would simply fall away and I could remove them. As it happened, the two rib bits are stuck fast and will live the rest of their days periodically rusting and then being roasted to 500 degrees centigrade plus. The worktop bits came out easily enough though.

    I then made a cardboard form for the oven mouth (at the calculated height, for those in the know) and set the chimney base into that. A layer of chicken wire followed in the hope that a bit of extra integrity for the fire clay wouldn't hurt. Once that was all finished I surrounded everything with breeze blocks to make it easier to pile clods of wet clay on top of each other without it all falling off. Then I was ready to put the clay layer down.

    The clay was an absolute cunt to deal with. I had borrowed a cement mixer from a neighbour because by this point the builders had finished and taken their mixer, the pricks. The borrowed mixer was woefully underpowered and I ended up doing half the mixing by hand. I have weak, idle, soft hands, and the clay was heavy and unwilling to mix freely, much like a UKIP voter. The lime added to the mix was also brutal, and got through a little hole in my gloves (both pairs, I doubled up) and burned a weird dent out of my finger that has left a glossy scar.

    The advice from the oven builder was that the clay stage is crucial to do quickly, with no voids in the clay. So when I started to run out of cement about 80% of the way through it resulted in my screaming to my wife that she had to go to the builders' merchants ASA fucking P. I was tired and the cider had long run out...

    It turned out ok in the end. A couple little voids here and there and some cracks. The latter wasn't a cause for concern apparently and the former were filled with fire cement.

    Then it was time for some insulation, in this case a ceramic blanket from Victas, my local wood fire oven professionals.

    After that came more insulation in the form of a 5 inch thick layer of perlite concrete which was light and willing to mix. This stage was comically easy compared to the fire clay. Much cider and merriment that day, I can tell you.

    The next stage was rendering it. I've never rendered anything, apart from myself useless. I'd got this far though...

    A mate's mate is a plasterer so I gave him a call about 5 panicked minutes into rendering it. 'Don't worry mate, it always looks shit when it's going on but it'll all come together in the end and look good', he assured me. And he was right about the looking shit bit, but sadly incorrect about the coming good bit. It was rendered though, so I moved on...

    The next stages involved painting it and making some cladding out of old palettes. But I forgot to take pics as I was on a cloud of accomplishment and sourdough pizza. So the next pics are of its current state:


    If you're wondering what the slit is in the bottom of the shot above, it's a bottle opener. I moulded a steel angle into the slab in the hope that it would work and it does!

    So, the whole thing isn't quite finished. I'd like to sort out its ugly waist, possibly with some mosaic tiling. I'm also not set on the Greek chapel style white, so the whole thing might get mosaic'd. The local cats have taken to jumping on it with muddy paws. One of the little fuckbags even took a shit on top of it. Cat pizza anyone?

    Does it fucking work though? I hear you cry. Yes. Yes it does. My laser thermometer tops out at 500 degrees, which happens when pointing away from the fire at peripheral areas of the oven when it's roaring, so god knows that the highest temperatures are getting to in there. At 400 degrees it cooks a pizza in less than two minutes.


    I even risked a massive 5-rib chunk of beef in there on Christmas day and it worked a charm! A remote control meat probe minimised the risk and gave us a perfectly cooked dinner. Excuse the pic and the manky bit of turkey some other cunt cooked, two bottles of rouge happened during the cooking and fucks went right out of the window...


    The oven has also done a splendid job of cooking chickens, roasted veg, bread and various bits of pig. As Grace Jones didn't quite say, 'it ain't perfect but it's perfect for me'. I'm using it regularly, at least once a fortnight over winter and weekly when it's warmer. I'm looking forward to doing some over night stuff and lots of fucking pizza in 2019!

  • Loved reading this. Made me laugh. Also I want one.

  • Great work 👍

  • If you have the space I can't recommend it enough, brings so much buzz to the cooking experience. I reckon it cost £450-ish to put together but I did manage to blag the builder's discount on the concrete materials.

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  • This is awesome.

  • Fuck yeah!

  • Lovely! Good work fella

  • Thanks chaps

  • I could stare at that for hours, good work.

  • My laser thermometer tops out at 500 degrees, which happens when pointing away from the fire at peripheral areas of the oven

    Top work. This has to go on my list of DIY tasks.

  • £450-ish

    Could you break that down at all? That's quite an investment.

  • I didn't really keep a record, but here are some very approximate figures:

    £150 on materials for the foundation (but I went way a bit overboard on this stage, could be done for less)
    Breeze blocks £60?
    2 lintels at £10 a pop
    Concrete slab materials nicked off the builders, probably £10
    £25 vermiculite board
    Fire bricks were free of a sparky mate who regularly guts them, but come up regularly on ebay for a quid or so each
    Syrup drum £5
    Clay layer materials £60
    Ceramic blanket £15
    Perlite concrete materials £60
    Render materials £15
    Chimney £40
    Paint £10

    That's £470-ish. If you can't borrow a mixer then you'd need to factor in hiring one for a week and trying to get it all done then, or multiple hires, which will possibly add hundreds to the cost. A surprising number of people have them though.

    I borrowed one via nextdoor.com. Some bloke down the road bought one to landscape his huge garden and hadn't used it since so was happy to let me have it for as long as I needed it once the builders buggered off with their's. I paid him a couple bottle of rouge and he was fucking delighted.

    If you had a solid bit of land to build on you could swerve the foundation altogether perhaps. And if you used salvaged materials for the base you could save a few quid. I've seen them built from wood, which if you're patient you might find cheap/free somehow. The only thing you can't really skimp on is the fire clay layer, which has to be able to absorb a huge amount of heat, and the insulation layers, which have to keep that heat in for as long as possible.

    It is quite an investment but it cost nearly half as much to cover that area of our garden with blue slate chippings and a few sleepers for a mini retaining wall and the enjoyment I get out of that is precisely 0.1% compared to the 100% of a single home cooked pizza, let alone the infinite amount that are going to come out of the oven and into my face in the future.

  • If you keep an eye out on ebay, gumtree and the like there are often cheap cement mixers for sale as people buy them to do a project and then flog them on as they're too bulky to keep around after.

  • What's the chimney made out of? Or is it a purpose built/bought one?

  • Purpose bought. I wanted to be able to control airflow so I got one off ebay with a damper in it.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152137223891?ul_noapp=true

  • Cheers.

    When we redo our terrace I'm really tempted to build one of these.

  • It had been on my list for well over a decade. We bought our house in 2015 but had planned to upsize within 3 years. When we decided to stay put and adjust the house to how we wanted it I pretty much started work immediately.

    More than a couple mates laughed it off, probably fairly knowing that I was a desk jockey who hadn't built anything in his life, but they're not laughing now! I meant to take a photo of the first pizza party we threw and posting some sort of 'build it and they will come' Field of Dreams moment but pizza with a side order of bitterness isn't chill apparently...

  • What thought did you give to / how did you decide on location?

    Just trying to work out how you balance proximity to the house with smoke etc.

  • It was a no-brainer for us. We have a long, south east facing garden that already had a raised area at the very end when we moved in. It gets the last of the sun in the evenings so it's a great spot for drinks after work or anytime really. It is quite close to our neighbour at the end's bathroom window, but it's rarely ever open and she hasn't complained yet. It only really smokes when it's first lit so hopefully it won't ever bother her.

    I have no idea if there are regulations for this sort of oven. I know they're very tight if you build it indoors but that's the limit of my knowledge.

    It's kind of a ball ache at the moment if I'm cooking raw meat of any kind, as I have to run back to the house to wash my hands. A tap/standpipe of some kind is on the to-do list for this summer, along with a prep surface of some kind near the oven so minimise house-dashes.

    I'm also planning a simple bench made from sleepers directly opposite the oven. It's a real pleasure to sit opposite it and watch the flames die when the evenings are warmer. It throws lovely dappled light along the rough stone wall... oooh, I feel a tear or two coming on

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