Cycle superhighways are getting rid of bus lanes

@Brookly_Bay
"Normal traffic" is already penalised, and rightly so. between congestion charge, insanely expensive parking fees in central London, etc, it is already heavily penalised. Quite simply, it is delusional and wrong to think it can or should be entirely eliminated, as there will always be cases where public transport or cycling are not feasible options.

@Aroogah

I am not talking as a motorcyclist, I am talking as a user of public transport (bus). I thought a constructive discussion was possible. I was wrong. You have pretty much all confirmed the us vs them aggressive attitude of the nazi cycle lobby. Congrats, guys!

I use buses as well. And trains. I also drive a car and own 4 bikes. What is your point?

You didn't come here for a discussion, you came here for an argument.

Good day to you sir.

Hmm, I have not used the reply function properly.

and yet it still gets given the largest % of roadspace.

You really should be campaigning to take away more of that inefficiently used roadspace for public transport rather than the superhighways which currently take up a tiny % of roadspace and are pretty efficient.

Ah I remember those halcyon days a few years back when all the traffic flowed so well - if only it wasn't for those pesky cycle lanes.

As aroogah says, you don't appear to be here for a discussion. Have a good day.

I've banned @SouthLondoner . He only signed up for an argument, troll is too obvious. The Guardian and Evening Standard comment sections are always open for business.

Phew - I was frothing into my cereal. You've saved me a long morning.

Not really sure what you're trying to achieve with this........

With cycle use in London on the up, why should the road usage not be changed to reflect this? Or is your solution just to keep adding more and more vehicles to the already congested roads?

Phew - I was frothing into my cereal. You've saved me a long morning.

If that is a euphemism don't let me stop you.

No Rickroll? Sad times.

A billionaire? So that's 100,000,000,000 incidents of seeing a cyclist doing something stupid. Let's say you see 1,000 incidents a day, that's 100,000,000 days, which means that you've been a motorcyclist since 271,965 BC.

puts popcorn away

who cares about them, since they are not organised in super aggressive lobbies like cyclists are?

You can just feel the seething rage of a middle-aged man who is increasingly aware of his impotence in life.

We have to build a city that makes transport good for those that struggle the rest will be ok. Buses are a vital part of the chain for many children elderly and disabled.
Fixie skidders will be ok with or with out bus/cycle lanes.

Because we need to make buses better so people get out of the cars. The whole city will be better as a result.

^^^ Ha ha ha. So obvious and so true! But sad to see Godwin's Law still applies, even on here.

Does a banned member still receive email notifications when someone @'s them?

nazi cycle lobby

Cos riding a bike is just like invading Poland!

I love it when a motorcyclist rocks up to lecture cyclists on safety and doing "stupid stuff". Despite only making up 1% of road users, they make up approximately 19% of deaths and serious injuries. cyclist 2% and 10% respectively.

I own four buses. It saves a fortune in bus fares.

tentatively holsters popcorn

Perhaps, try it and I'll tell you whether the logs suggest an email was sent.

Actually... I'll say yes. It does appear that he's still getting updates, though he hasn't clicked on one for over an hour.

I have unsubscribed him from all emails

Well SouthLondoner seems a bit trolly, but there are certain Hackney councillors, well supported on here, who are very much of the same opinion, cf the CSH1 implementation shambles.

Isn't the simple answer to this that normal all-traffic lanes are relatively hostile to cyclists and so you have put in segregated cycle lanes to get people other than confident fast cyclists to use bikes; whereas buses can be quite happy in normal all-traffic lanes (they may or may not be slower than bus lanes).

It's a city FFS! Everyone gets in everyone else's way and space allocated to any group may inconvenience other modes of transport (clever design like road diets notwithstanding). Ultimately if you want to achieve a balanced, resilient, overall transport network, which includes getting people of all ages and abilities onto bikes, then you need to build proper bike lanes somewhere.