EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

It’s okay, the Government have a long and illustrious history of delivering successful large scale software development projects.

Sounds like the best POC ever.

Massive scale roll-out with unprecedented impact of failure? Naturally.

the Government have a long and illustrious history of delivering successful large scale software development projects.

It's ok, that's under the old red tape heavy, EU rules of procurement. The new ones will be much sleeker.

If you're living in the country you were born in how can you be an immigrant, you haven't moved anywhere.

1st generation, 2nd generation... immigrant

On the subject of immigrants who'd have thought that fish & chips had forrin roots?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8419026.stm

They didn't move. They're children of immigrants, not immigrants.

If I'm going to cop shit for being an immigrant don't water it down with this bullshit about everyone being immigrants. We all came from the sea but you don't see me claiming shipping rights...

If they want to complain about immigrants (they being the usual suspects everywhere...not just the UK) then it'd be lovely if they could explain why they keep mixing up monetary issues and superiority issues.

Unless somebody calls for an expulsion of all the never do wells / bigots, regardless of nationality, then we're talking ;)

Joking aside, immigration law even in more relaxed countries like Canada is exceptionalist. Only the young/health/educated/those with needed skills may apply...who then fill the tax pot for everyone, including people that don't want them, who then complain about them.

The ironing ;)

Blockchains ... the immigrants can't get through those, right?

They're made of very small links Oliver, called bits - which helps to indicate how small they are.

Pete North is undoubtedly a douche bag, and he was heavily involved in the Leave campaign, but he knows what he's talking about:

https://twitter.com/PeteNorth303/status/922448615016222721

Dunno if this has been posted yet.
Pretty interesting to find out all the other countries that trade under WTO rules...

https://medium.com/@MrWeeble/who-actually-trades-solely-under-wto-rules-1b6127ce33c6

take Juncker turning Luxembourg into a tax haven (he denies any knowledge of this, of course

I'd be surprised if he remembers last week given that his alleged penchant for a snifter or five.

He doesn't seem to be a complete moron, and quite reasonable.

So why he'd think the benefit/cost of Brexit, even staying in the single market, would pay off is a bit of a mystery to me.

Lots explained on his flexcit blog, but I'm not instantly bewowed I have to admit.

bewowed

Bloody foreigners, coming over here, inventing new words ...

BeenShicked? :)

Pete North is undoubtedly a douche bag, and he was heavily involved in the Leave campaign, but he knows what he's talking about:

Does he? He writes a good case for Brexit being a disaster, and then says we should leave anyway. Like @JWestland, and am unbewowed by his stance.

He means leave on his particular terms- which I believe are enscribed on a Unicorn horn. To his credit he sees that his version of Brexit is impossible.

That said, he holds some fairly unpleasant views.

A sad tale

http://crookedtimber.org/2017/10/23/working-to-rule/

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Sobering. Reading that kind of sums up where I feel I am as a UK Citizen. all of those thoughts are thoughts I have had. I don't feel like a citizen anymore. I cant connect with anyone holding those small minded views. I had an argument with my dad over the weekend, nothing too heated but despite being able to pull up various studies and documentation about how bad economically its going to be and on the various number of lies the referendum was sold on, there was no getting him to see past the small minded issue of 'dey tekkin er jerbs' (despite the fact that he is retired now and has never lost a job due to foreign workers and has had several illnesses and hospital visits where he was seen to by foreign workers. LITERALLY HIS LIFE WAS SAVED BY FOREIGNS! BUT ooooooooh no dont let them have er jerbs!)

Nothing sinister feeling about this at all!

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/oct/24/universities-mccarthyism-mp-demands-list-brexit-chris-heaton-harris

This is a good read, as is Shaxson’s book ‘*Treasure Islands*’;

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/24/britain-cant-prosper-tax-haven-hollow-threats-brexiteers-offshore-eu

I especially like the comment that for the Brexiteers vision of the UK as Singapore on Thames, we’d need to service the money of this plus several other inhabited planets.

I think history will judge these lunatic Brexiteers in a similar way to McCarthy.

Yeah, sounds all too familiar. My Dad was in hospital for a while last year, and despite both my parents being ardent Brexit voters who lap up anti-immigrant fear-mongering, I recall my Mum praising the kindness and professionalism of the people looking after my Dad, who, needless to say, came from a wide range of countries outside GB. It's actually quite a challenge to stop that kind of thing affecting the way you feel about your parents.

It's actually quite a challenge to stop that kind of thing affecting the way you feel about your parents.

my dad voted brexit because he thought the subsequent lowering in value of the pound would make his pension, which is in ZAR, worth a bit more.

he wasn't wrong.