EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

^ Hah!

Do you think they will visit all 4 countries? ;)

Its got experts ... we don't like experts do we ?

http://uk.businessinsider.com/rec-report-brexit-skills-gap-2017-5

So 25% of jobs may be left unfilled if they can't find the people to do them... people are not moving jobs/EU nationals are leaving or not coming due to Brexit.

I hope something good will come out of it for the UK workers but... that begs the question: How can there be so much work and so much poverty...???

Skill shortage.

Thankfully for we have a world leading higher education industry.

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/russell-group-universities-vulnerable-to-brexit-brain-drain

Oh...

Wage stagnation.

Yep that's one big factor, the UK economy has grown but real wages have dropped as there's been no increase for years.

I am still somewhat confused why people don't stand up against it bar good old tribalism in voting/shit media/shit system with FPTP and no coalition governments.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/09/colin-johnson-wollygogg-twitter-hoax-marine-le-pen-bet

If true, what a total cunt. The Mail seems to have interviewed someone who provided them with pics (and the request they not name the child, which seemed a bit odd considering there were pics published).

With a background in PR...

"Last night, I was in a bar in Hoxton and I could hear two women laughing about it.”

Contender for the most metro elite quote ever?

http://www.politico.eu/article/uk-officials-snub-meps-on-brexit/

Home Office goes "meh" when MEPs ask for a meeting about all the issues EU nationals have with requesting PR (they've simplified the form, but people with absences for 6 months/no CSI/no work history or other HRMC logged proof etc... still run into issues)

Must be election time.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/14/robert-mercer-cambridge-analytica-leave-eu-referendum-brexit-campaigns

Pretty bold allegation. What happens to a referendum result if one of the sides broke electoral law?

In theory? Or in reality?

Her investigations have not been going down well with lawyers

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/863643199075700736

The whole thing stinks but if it's stinking enough to break laws is another thing... See also Tory election fraud.

Isn't electoral law a bit rubbish though (i.e. powerless)?

In other words if something bad has happened then maybe someone will get fined £50

They got fined, but there wasn't enough for criminal prosecution.

If I understand the whole thing correctly: Campaigns are NOT allowed to take foreign cash and not allowed to work together unless they declare this.

Suppose yes this did happen. Then what? I'm not sure, a fine, criminal persecution, voiding of referendum... I guess perhaps a fine.

Quite interesting (if slightly depressing)

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/05/12/forget-52-rise-re-leavers-mean-pro-brexit-electora/

Understandable though. Stages of grief, etc.

I should probably reread it. But how was the questioning done? I want Brexit to be as successful as possible. However, I view myself as a hard remainer - and will do until it is proved to be a net success* over a 15yr period.

The thing I don't understand is the logic that someone as demonstrably incompetent as May and her cohort of idiots are viewed as a "safe pair of hands" and/or the best placed to make a success of the whole shambles.

*haven't yet formalised my criteria for success.

I guess it comes down to whether people believe voting for May will somehow result in a 'better' outcome for Brexit.

Voting for somebody who only pisses of the EU with a incompetent bunch of nincompoops that only pisses off the EU who had to be forced to give Parliament a say will surely end well...

...it will end the power struggle in the Tories, but guess how this crap started: With a power struggle in the Tories. It's like somebody throwing in your windows, then you give them the job of fixing them instead of going to another supplier...

There's a fairly common theme of "Would you want Corbyn negotiating with the EU, he'd probably just roll over for them".

To be honest, I have no idea how well or not he'd do. He hasn't hugely impressed in debating since he's become leader, although it is possible it has just received less coverage when he has done.

There also seems to be the impression that Corbyn is pro-Europe. Obviously that hasn't historically been his position but I think that the party has suffered somewhat by trying to be all things to all people rather than an unequivocal stance on Brexit.

the conversation seems to be the tories will try their best so are the best bet but labour are unviable because they cant possibly deliver everything they say immediately (aka they will have to try their best). even heading back towards the general direction of a centrist position would make the lives of millions in this country infinitely better.

i'd rather corbyn bumbled his way through making some improvements (not that i think he is incompetent anyways) than the tories continue actively destroy the underpinnings of the entire country for their rich mates.

Totally and Corbyn may be willing to compromise.

I still don't get why auto cue bot May is seen as more competent...she's useless.

But I agree with Aggi that trying to be a jack of all trades did not help Labour it's been weak messaging and inconsistency all the way through.

Still Bluekip or Labour is an easy choice... If you want an NHS, human decency etc...

Those meddling Eurocrats

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-17-1276_en.htm