EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

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  • Farage forgets though that Australia has even more immigration and that about half of the UK immigration is non EU.

    Everyone has been played a blinder there...

    I agree with EU issues. Maybe it won't change. But the IMF has similar issues...it's ultimately the banks. I think...

  • Without wishing to divert the thread, politicians here are more worried about flegs etc. than the economic future for the province. It is an utter disgrace but i cannot see it changing for, at least, another 2 generations. The map of the Brexit vote is interesting - split east and west of the Bann - why anyone would really want to stay here is beyond me - perhaps our new economy will be based on transporting immigrants from the land border to the boat/plane to the mainland.

    Richard

  • But remember you can leave if needed on an Irish passport.

    Don't feel you are stuck in an island. And everyone likes the Irish 😃

  • Bizarrely I like it here but i get frustrated by the lack of any progress by 'our' politicians. Brexit is the topping on the cake. What is the football chant 'Nobody likes us, and we don't care' - seems apt!

    Richard

  • I think he completely misunderstands the immigration issue...it's frustration over lack of resources

    Ah, the go-to excuse of the closet racist.

    Our public services are under-resourced because of Tory "small-government" idealist policies.

  • Yes,
    I did laugh/grimace this week when it was announced the Civil service had hardly any bureaucrats with Trade Deal negotiating experience.
    Another victory for 'small government'.

  • Parliament square starting to fill up nicely.

    Handful of leave voters hanging about insisting that the protestors are simply having a tantrum because they lost.

  • Yes and of course the issues are caused by underresource.

    But there is some thing that does not click. Why would people otherwise vote Farage who offers no solutions?

    Is it a 100% simple as that?

  • Yes interesting but it is the curvature of a courgette not a banana.

    edit - yes , bananas too

  • Lovely photographs Will

  • My auntie works on the Brussels side. She told me (pre-brexit vote) that for the UK there are around twenty experienced negotiators. We're going to need hundreds.

    Any forum law grads looking for a gig? Page Juncker pronto.

  • The tories don't really want to admit that one of the best european negotiators is Peter Mandelson. He is, of course, very pro-EU, but he's hugely experienced and would be a very good person to have on the team.

  • the protestors are simply having a tantrum because they lost.

    https://www.facebook.com/RTUKnews/videos/1625038167786060/

  • Oh brexit was definitely democracy.

    Like cake or death and the people choose death :P

  • Politics makes such good drama because it is about the lust for power, driving ambition, the balance between cynicism and belief.

  • I remember Mandelson being a EU Commissioner,
    but due to this country's purposeful poor coverage of EU business,
    I am at a loss to remember anything he achieved,
    beyond a possible involvement in the 'scrap-a-banger' programme
    to take older, supposedly more polluting passenger vehicles off the road.

    As one of the 'elite' who has never earnt a penny from the sweat of his brow, I can see him being very concerned about retaining access the City of London to provide services to the EU, but unconcerned about retaining employment in productive manufacturing.

    I also seem to remember he was very positive about waiving H&S legislation to allow asbestos ridden ships to be dismantled in Hartlepool.

  • TBH I'm not sure productive manufacturing is the way we should be going. Competing against countries where life is cheap is never going to get us anywhere except back to pre-EU levels of wages and ridiculously long working hours.
    Thatcher was right in investing (time, money and effort) in the financial sector, let's just hope that London isn't too badly affected and as a Country we can still reap the rewards of her legacy.

  • Talking head of last resort, Ruth Lea,
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Lea

    spouting vapid platitudes on BBCR4

  • Yes, let's stop making formula 1 cars and space rockets and concentrate all our efforts on financial crime. It's bound to be more lucrative.

    Of course the financial sector can play a big part in a balanced economy but why assume that all productive manufacturing is about making cheap products. We have amazing engineers who lead the world in solving problems and creating excellent products. Hard work and long hours is preferable to long term unemployment IMHO.

  • I didn't say let's stop, just not go down the pre EU route. And TBH we're not the best engineers anymore and space rockets and formula 1 cars are not exactly big GDP contributers are they?

    Edit: I agree engineering overall is productive for the country as an export atm but with the EU single market being our biggest customer by far due to trade agreements. No trade agreements, means we have to compete in an open market, we're not cheap enough.

    Plus doesn't progress in those fields require scientific research or R&D, ah that's right we voted out didn't we - which probably means we'll fall further behind.

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