EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

At what point will the voting public start to notice.

They don’t, at the moment some item are no longer sold in supermarket since January, some shelves are bare, etc.

They will notice when the choices plummet to zero.

At what point will the voting public start to notice, is the million dollar question.

Given that apparently half the population consider that fuel supply issues are all the fault of The Meeja and less than a quarter think that HMG might have something to do with it, I'm not holding my breath.

My Daily Mail reading, Brexit voting racist dad told me the other day that the fuel shortages were the EU's fault because they made the driving standards too high.

I no longer argue with him because I have had several quite vicious arguments on the subject since the vote. The clincher for me was when he told me he had been investigating if he could get an Irish passport (his great grandfather was from Dublin) because Brexit would make make his European holidays more inconvenient. I think once he had said it and I piled into him he realised what a cock he was.

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It is not the role of government to manage the country, unless it's Brexit then "fuck business" is fine.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/oct/04/david-frost-issues-veiled-treat-to-ditch-northern-ireland-protocol-brexit?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other this, again?

Sabbrerattling little man... Go on, do it. The EU can't go too hard due to NI ROI but it may suck more than he thinks.

Rishi Sunak has insisted that Brexit is in the long-term interests of the UK, despite current disruption to fuel and food supplies.

"In his first Tory conference speech as chancellor, he said leaving the EU would provide "flexibility" to shape a more modern economy.

He also said he wanted to cut taxes, but only when the public finances are on a "sustainable footing"."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58789654

It's jam tomorrow apparently. They'll suckle at that teat in perpetuity.

leaving the EU would provide "flexibility" to shape a more modern economy..

.. which can't house, feed, provide, take care of its own people.

The gallows await for the Tories, methinks how utterly pathetic

Rishi Sunak has insisted that Brexit is in the long-term interests of the UK, despite current disruption to fuel and food supplies.

Hold on, is someone admitting that this is actually somehow related to Brexit? He will receive a stern talking to for this fantasy.

He also said he wanted to cut taxes, but only when the public finances are on a "sustainable footing"."

What's the betting that will be just before the next election?

I doubt anyone's even offering odds against it.

Interesting thread on how EU are proposing to resolve NI situation and how the politics might play out
https://twitter.com/Mij_Europe/status/1446748866812989442

Tx.

Hopefully it sorts generic medicines as well, profit margins are too small for many GB suppliers to deal with current paperwork.

I guess the Cons will annoyingly spin it as their victory...they aren't insane enough to say no. Right? (But who knows...)

..they aren't insane enough to say no. Right?

Good to see supply chain issues haven't affected your source of hopium

We are still in the cu / sm for hopium in northern Ireland ;)

But yeah it's possible frosty and the Joker from batman say no, the odds of it are low but not 0.

Edit. Wrong thread.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/oct/09/trade-war-looms-as-uk-set-to-spurn-eu-offer-on-northern-ireland?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

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Yeh, they seem to of lost all perspective. I think they need to the EU to remain an enemy to justify their existence so will choose a detrimental route for personal gain

Yep that's it.

The unionist -parties- not sure voters are... are still at the "we want major changes" too. Lads, the cons don't care about you and you keep going back to them. Nuts.

But sure, gas and electricity are getting expensive, food prices are up, universal credit is cut, why not add a tradewar on top, just what we all need!

I think it is in some ways as simple as this- NI is currently doing better than rUK due to the NIP. This shows the problem of Brexit.

Ergo the NIP must go so that NI suffers the same shortages etc as rUK to save Frosts blushes.

Hence him moving the goalposts when it became apparent that the EU we’re going to resolve the sausage war. Now it’s the ECJ that cannot be born.

Problem he has there is that nowhere in the triggering factor list for Article 16 does it mention “culture war”, so he’ll need to square that circle.

The EJC always was a sticking point.

Since the English gov rolled over for the Australia tradedeal (no Paris agreement / screwing over GB farmers) the argument "We aren't beholden to foreign rules!!!" is rather inconsistent now.

It’s 100% ideological, no justification other than a particular view of sovrinty that ignores the realities of 2021.

Whose ideology though?

Bar a part of conservative Brexit voters, I don't see it. Labour brexiters, unionist Brexit voters, NI socialist Brexit voters and the vast majority of remainers aren't in favour of this.

We are beholden to what, 25% of the UK 2019 GE voters that are head bangers? (Cons got 43% last GE)

Whose ideology though?

Anyone who'll do what it takes to make it look like their vote for Brexit wasn't a mistake I'd wager

Whose ideology though?

The ERG.

This thread is long, but pertinent:

https://twitter.com/andrewprlevi/status/1447230372706721803?s=21