EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

Is the acute a trivial matter in French?

I find the reaction here to this very interesting. You continue to call it what you wish, I’ve already linked to a breakdown of why the term is incorrectly used and especially in the context of political conversations.

On apple devices hold down the e to get É é etc.

From memory, the French acute changes the sound of the letter. I have no idea if it does so in Irish.
If the Irish Times can’t get the name of a Republican Terrorist Organisation spelt correctly, what does that say about the acute in Irish? Note that they do use the acute widely in the article. I would expect members of that organisation would have been dismayed by the misspelling of their name by a local paper.

Yeah, I'm not making predictions, but wondering (more hoping) out loud. I do, at the very least, think it's a possibility. And as the pressure builds both politically and economically, the possibility only increases.

Thanks - that’s good to know if I need to type Éire. And it works! Good job

Made me think of this from memes thread earlier this week:

Just need a link to your comment in your favourites: https://www.lfgss.com/comments/15798092/

Ha. I was looking for that to demonstrate my point earlier but couldn’t find it!😁

To be clear though is it Eire that’s the issue or is Éire also taboo.

The former I can understand as the lack of a thingy gives the word a different meaning but if Éire is also taboo then that I still don’t get as outside blatant misuse by the far right, everyone else is surely trying not to offend by using the local lingo over English.

Ha, it truly is incredible. I still can't get over the fact that a birth certificate is only valid for 3 months, it makes sorting anything out when you live outside of France practically impossible.

Now I'm confused. Following that link - "NB: Do not use 'Republic of Ireland' nor 'Irish Republic'."

So I can't say ROI. From now on I'll stick to Ireland. This is similar to my time spent in the industrial capital of India asking the locals what the name of their city was.

Wat. That's something!

My French partner had to get a certified copy of his birth cert, local council sent it here fast.

From now on I'll stick to Ireland.

That'll get you in hot water with the NI Unionists though ;)

I'm a bit confused as to why ROI would be problematic also. But yeah, outside of 'the Island of Ireland' (couldn't help chuck another term into the confusion here), Ireland is probably a pretty sensible bet.

Yeah, I'm not making predictions, but wondering (more hoping) out loud. I do, at the very least, think it's a possibility. And as the pressure builds both politically and economically, the possibility only increases.

Challenge there is that there is an answer - and it's the obvious answer that the EU thought was clear from the following:

1. The UK prioritises a theoretical deal with the US above most things
   
2. Certainly above SPS issues with NI (if they prioritised NI above the US deal then they could as mentioned have signed up to the EU SPS regs as for e.g. NZ has partially done)
   
3. So there will be issues, and there's a transition to smooth them out (which Gove now wants to extend).
   
   

However, and this is not original it's PM Fosters observation - the transition period is not there (from the EU perspective) to work out how to "fix" GB-NI trade of for e.g. chilled sausages, it's there to give NI time to find a sausage supplier in the EU.

From the EU perspective the choices that the UK government has made make it inevitable that SPS qualifying goods will stop going GB-NI, and start going EU-NI, and this is based on what Frost et al asked for and was given.

But the UK government hasn't even got to the stage of admitting that there is a border in the Irish Sea, much less telling Arlene that they prioritised chlorinated chicken above her entire constituency.

What's needed is a very great deal of pressure to make the UK government acknowledge reality, and the question there is does their vote hold up if they just focus on "poor NI, the victim of the evil EU" does that make the requirement to admit to said reality go away for long enough to win another election?

Yeah, you can get it but if they mess something up and the thing they're sorting for you takes longer than the the certificate is valid for you have to start the whole process again!

My wife got pickpocketed in Paris about 8 years ago when she tried to get a new driving licence the consulate told her she had to go to where she originally got the licence, who in turn told her she had to apply in London as that's where she lives now. Guess who hasn't driven for 8 years 😂

In other news, my wife got her passport stolen in Monte Carlo in 2002, and I flew out the next day with replacement documents to help her get back. I often tell her, if she'd had it stolen in Ostend, she'd be there still.

One of the wonders of this forum is the number of well informed people with the grace to explain to well meaning contributors who unwittingly use loaded phrases or names.
Thank you for explaining the loaded meaning of 'Eire'.

FWIW I've never had any problems with using a shortened version of my given name on many bits of ID. The only bit of ID that has the longer name is my birth certificate. Passport, driving license, etc all use shortened version. Electoral roll has the longer version, as does my NHS records (so GP surgery/etc), and council tax (so that probably comes from the electoral roll). All of my US Visa documentation was done against the shortened version, no problems.

Whenever I book flights or stuff I always use the shortened version as that's what password and driving license say.

Can't remember what my marriage certificate says.

Can't remember what my marriage certificate says.

Game over

The word "bureaucracy" is French for a reason.

I don’t think we need to confuse the issue with Northern Ireland and the North of Ireland. Granted no acutés😂😂😂

My French partner had to get a certified copy of his birth cert, local council sent it here fast.

If you're born outside France you have to get the sodding thing couriered from Nantes. Which they say can take "up to 28 days" but you need it for embassies etc. So to get a passport, someone in Nantes has to print my copy, stamp it, post it to me, I take it to the French embassy, they scan it and either shred it or give it back to me. Why they couldn't just bloody use the same computer system in the first place I've not worked out.

That is truly frightening. I've been to Ostend and two days was definitely enough though Marvin Gaye was obvoiusly made of sterner stuff

I’m not sure you thought this through, Michael;

https://twitter.com/michaelgove/status/1357434202229256192?s=12

Self awareness is not his strong suit.

This entire cabinet is like the line from Groucho Marx.

"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others"

What are the rules around the name Great Britain? For e.g. if Scotland becomes independent does it stop being appropriate or would we still be the British Isles?