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• #2677
And the Lib Dems have changed their policy of ignoring the referendum to one of rejoining the EU!
https://twitter.com/LibDems/status/747401902242021376
Not that what the Lib Dems say matters.
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• #2679
Pro tip - invest in luxury umbrella companies today.
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• #2680
Ah but all the Leaver voters are now backpedaling "It's about sovereignty we knew that they wouldn't do these things but we have control now over how we spend".
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• #2681
acceptable to attack women>
That was hardly an attack. Chill.
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• #2682
There is no statutory instrument and Article 50 could be invoked by any single person in the UK.
However, The EU is unlikely to accept notification from anyone other than the Prime Minister or duly appointed successor or sufficient remaining authority. They are also unlikely to accept it if they feel that the notification lacks sufficient backing of the voting population or parliamentary representation.
Under current circumstances, the second condition has been met.
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• #2683
A second referendum may not be that far fetched or even that unlikely:
https://waitingfortax.com/2016/06/24/when-i-say-no-i-mean-maybe/
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• #2684
Also some constitutional "experts" say Article 50 has to be triggered by and act of Parl
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• #2685
I just read an editorial piece on the guardian that stated that A50 can only invoked by a state after it's proper constitutional processes have been followed.
In the UK, this means having had an act passed in parliament. The referendum has no constitutional Power and is purely advisory.
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• #2686
Snap
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• #2687
it's sounding a bit less depressing every day
lots of possibilities on how we can wangle our way out of this idiotic decisioncome on tim /
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• #2688
Was I attacking anyone?
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• #2689
Under current circumstances, the second condition has been met.
Does 52% of a 70% turnout count as sufficient? As mandates go, it's marginal at best.
There doesn't appear to be any measure of what Parliament as a whole thinks.
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• #2690
Why don't we ask the Shadow Cabinet? Oh.
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• #2691
Yeah,
That could be. Maybe there has been some good (stability, security?) brought about by sharing wealth across Europe. Although I'm fairly sure the common man hasn't reaped the benefits and just the local fat cats have been cashing in.Anyways I wonder what will happen elsewhere in Europe. There has been a huge number of talented hard-working people working in the UK that might now migrate back home or to other countries. Eastern European countries seem to be booming and this might be the stimulus to really kick them off.
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• #2692
Yes.
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• #2693
Old school friend posts on Facebook:
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• #2694
It's not enacting an act of Parliament but more a repeal of the 1972 act to join the EU.
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• #2695
So this referendum has had no effect in notts at all then?
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• #2696
ba-dum-tish
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• #2697
Jokes from the United Republic of London bubble
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• #2698
Call Me Dave to drop a sly txt to Brussels invoking Article 50 on his last day. Then let BoJo know via postit
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• #2699
We've accepted less in order to for a government to be formed from a General Election so yes, it is sufficient. We are a democracy without manadatory voting so the remaining 30% potential turnout are viewed as simply failing to have an opinion as to whether we should stay or leave. They have to be considered as not caring either way. 52% of 70% is 36% of the voting population.
Yes, it's a marginal mandate but even a vote difference of 1 still counts in a democracy. And unlike parliamentary representation, where we can objectively say that a governing party lacks a mandate if it doesn't command the support of 50% of the voting population, a referendum is a very different matter. An abstention in a referendum isn't a party political issue and can't be viewed as a rejection of the existing democratic state or system. This is a direct question to the voting population on policy.
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• #2700
Is there anyone left in the Shadow cabinet part from Tom Watson and Diane Abbott? There can be no way for Corbyn to hang on shirley.
I'm guessing you are 'on the left' so why do you think it is acceptable to attack women for their appearance?