EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

What are the papers going to do about the massive majority the Tories have the coming 5 years? If there is a will, with a bit of "classic Dom" spin, there is a way, it is by now a fact-free zone anyway.

However arrogance and Dunning-Kruger levels of stupidity may still mean it won't happen. We will see around June...

...fun times.

with a fist-full of blue passports riding a wave of British Fish.

I might try and get one of those blue passports. Have been seriously considering it, for my own future here.

Settled Status, wait one year and check out UKCEN and read all the advice.

Have £1500 handy, do a language test, then life in the uk pub quiz and... hope you don't get refused on a stupid technicality (forgot to declare a travel with stamp in your passport, have been bankrupt with no "good" excuse, really really really read the FAQs very well on UKCEN.

Going through it atm... yey.

Yep, I've done the research on it already. The money is the main issue - I technically have it, but do I want to spend it on this?

Good luck with your application!

life in the uk pub quiz

Heh heh heh. That's how I remember it too.

Surely worth it for peace of mind, voting and telling the Gammons they can't tell you to "go home" cos you are now a UK citizen? ;)

Drop mike, watch pineapples cook... ;)

Presumably all the newly minted UK Citizens, hewn from EU stock, will be eligible to vote?

Once you're in the gang, you're in. Unless you're naughty then you're out again.

riding a wave of British Fish.

I do love the irony that if we do try and take back control of our territorial waters for fishing the eu will slap tariffs on it and the French will let it rot on the docks. It’s not even like we can catch anything that can be made into fish and chips, that all comes from Norway and Iceland.

How is the influx of former-forrins going to impact the political landscape I wonder?

It’s not even like we can catch anything that can be made into fish and chips, that all comes from Norway and Iceland.

Our new maritime border control will evict any fish that isn't intended by God to end up battered, with some chips.

Hard to call. Most will be not conservative voters after the shitshow visited upon us.

But some people wrote on forums they know EU mainland ones that voted for Brexit / Cons 2019 after naturalization.

It won't be 52/48 (snark) but not 100% no cons either. And not everyone can afford the £1500 so if you end up with 10-20% of people naturalizing you probably do well.

But a lot of the kids probably won't take kindly to the conservatives after what they were up to, in 10-20 years it may boost non con voters more.

Scallops make a lot of £ for NI fisheries.

A lot come from the Bay of Biscay. And guess who voted all Brexity...

(Bar a young one speaking to BBC news, lots of angry "the EU took our fish/boats" ones among the older ones...)

Fishing is 0.1% of GDP. We've probably expended so many man-hours and kilowatt hours on it that we're already in the hole as a country. Write off.

Yeah that's basically my reasoning there, but I'm still at a stage in my, uh, 'career' where 1.5k in one go is not just quite a lot of money, it's a fucking lot of money... still, leaning towards doing it currently.

The long post by Ian Dunt (posted here already I think) sums it up.

It may be 0.1% of GDP at a national level but it's a huge %-age of the GDP of various individual communities in the UK.

Paul Joy.
That's why fishing is important to Brexit.

Scallop fishing is particularly shit for the world, given its usually by a big belt smashing fuck out of the sea bed.

If we got a 200 mile zone around us, what else would that let us do?

Totemic innit? 'Island nation.'Our' waters. British fish. Gertcha. And I was at Violet's funeral...

Like the people running the country, CBA to do the job properly.
Quick one in Paint.net.

If we got a 200 mile zone around us

Large portions (the majority) of our fishing waters are also within 200 miles of other (EU) countries.

There has already been a fun bunfight between ROI and UK over a fishing grounds arrangement outside the EU regulations.

I've sympathy for fishing towns, but I fear they've been played. Who is going to buy back sold quota, and invest in sustainable fishing grounds?

This government? I'd be surprised.

I wonder what percentage of GDP the Nissan/Honda/Jaguar/etc. factories represent for their local areas...

Lots. When Nissan leave Sunderland the whole place is going to be totally fucked. Still, it's what they wanted.

Oh yeah, those maps are fascinating. For the record, I'm firmly in the 'Bütschgi' camp when it comes to what the apple core is called. 'Bitzgi' and 'Bitschgi' are still understandable, as is 'Bätzgi', but of course 'Gröibschi' is just ridiculous.

There are two main words for the core of an apple in German, which are reflected in this divide: "Griebs(ch)" and "Butz(en)". There's also "Krotz(en)". It's interesting that "Griebs(ch)" is perhaps etymologically related to "Krebs":

https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Apfelgriebs

In my family, the word was usually "Apfelgriebsch".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51260282

Checks will have to be done for goods from GB coming into NI.

Boris is still in denial phase, whether cos he doesn't care about details or it is a play to blame the EU, I don't know.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51260282

So those Cox apples grown in England, we better eat them here in NI with a pinky promise not to send them on to ROI ;)