EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

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  • Laffer optimum is around 70% supposedly.

    As you do, I really take issue with the capital flight argument. I strongly believe that income is largely determined by a bunch of arbitrary factors exclusive of ability. I think that if high-paid executives left the country, their minions would replace them, with only a small short-term loss of productivity as a consequence. People aren't trained to be highly-paid executives, they get there by chance.

  • His neck goes a lot further up and around the back of his head than is usual too right? I'm not normally down with taking the piss out of how people look but I don't think I've ever had to look at him in detail for so long, it's jarring. Also everything he says is dirty, dirty shitlies.

  • short-term loss of productivity as a consequence

    Increase, because people have to think about their job for a few months before the status quo resumes.

  • The whole thing was a BBC Scotland production, I've been had, give me back my Johnson.

  • Laffer

    Of trickledown economics fame...

  • Yeah that highly peer reviewed and accepted methodology of getting pissed at dinner and sketching something on a napkin and it becoming fact.
    Fucking economics.

  • Fucking economics

    Social "science"

  • Probably a re and definitely drawn by a hard done by Brexiteer but I thought it was spot on in terms of the likeness..


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  • Looks like he's stretched an uncooked pizza base over a massive fucking cunt.

    Actual lol. I hope your hangover isn't too bad today!

  • I'm doing OK, should probably get out of bed though.

  • Scotland is excluded?

    No mention of SNP (or NI parties but Conservatives got a whole 800 voters here ... Labour doesn't stand here)

  • Here's a very good article on the German role in people's disillusionment with the EU:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/26/germany-damaging-european-economy-raise-german-wages

    It doesn't describe the situation in Germany very well, though; there millions of people are estimated to live in poverty. (I've seen estimates up to 7 million) As the article touches on, wages in Germany have also not risen enough, East Germany continues to be economically weak, and the outcome of all that has been that German companies have had to export to keep going, as domestic demand has been low for a long time. All of the policies that led to this situation are basically the responsibility of the unspeakable Helmut Kohl, rivalled only by Margaret Thatcher in his ignorance and idiocy, and to a lesser extent the feeble Blairite Gerhard Schröder, who succeeded Kohl as chancellor, but like Blair, and Jospin in France, attempted to do Clintonism.

    I strongly believe that Kohl forced the over-hasty introduction of the euro in order to disguise the impact of his unjust and divisive policies (as the euro facilitated German exports and counteracted the weak domestic market conditions), especially the annexation and sell-out of East Germany. Schäuble, of course, was a major contributor to all this. Angela Merkel has been chancellor since Schröder and has basically just been a standard conservative, steadily worsening the situation, but not in particularly eye-catching ways (her two main eye-catching policies having been the "Ausstieg" (as in getting off a train) from nuclear energy, a policy that was really owned by the Greens but was suddenly enacted by the CDU, which had always been the main lobbying party for nuclear power, and her decision to open the borders to (mainly Syrian) refugees)

    The impact all this has had not only on the smaller European countries but also on badly-governed large countries like the UK and France is now visible and attributed by many people to the role of the EU. There is some truth to that, especially with the ill-advised introduction of the euro, but it must be noted that the EU had very different policies and was turned over by Kohl and co. Apart from all that, the EU is still the most important peace project in the history of Europe and while it must be reformed, it is very important to correct the various misconceptions that are being exploited by hostile actors to destabilise Europe further.

  • https://mobile.twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1199386821848899584?s=04&fbclid=IwAR2ib4tm-K3napmVGxCRxZd8CJ_6PUkWIkXd2K2sSDONc-dEy0penv-mOg0

    Brexit party MEP gets corrected with facts by actual economist MEP. Light viewing, nice nonetheless.

  • Saw this yesterday-bemused by the way the ignorant cunt just laughs... Like seriously pal, you're a fucking idiot, have the decency to recuse yourself from any kind of participation in public life.

  • He was only waiting for her to discredit herself by being an expert on 'Project Fear', and she fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

  • Can't beat a bit of entitled white middle age male promoted above their level of confidence. Such an inspiration! ;)

    Unfortunately too many people still think Brexit is a small thing you just get done, like changing your kex, doing the dishes... Yet they wouldn't accept the u turns on Brexit t&cs were it a sim only mobile phone plan :)

  • Molly Scott Cato is brill!

  • Has this been resolved yet?

  • ^ hah :D

    https://twitter.com/SimonBruni/status/1202327514477150208?s=20&fbclid=IwAR0Af8qFbtpu7k-OxsbbQ-FdrVx0Dp1a6jyD25wg2Say9wx5KZdTDJbXKDc

    Idiotic but amusing tweet on the "REAL REASON!!!!!!!!!" Millenials want to stay in the EU.

  • It shouldn't but there is a spate of =white= men with such views in UK politics atm.

    Promoted beyond the point of competence and not supporting/actively going against supporting rights for women/ethnic minorities.

    Farage, Boris Johnston, both sexist. Brexit party (quite a few), the DUP leadership, the lot.

    In theory, skin colour should not have any link at all with anybody's views. But I'm not so sure as I don't see a lot of BAME men/women in =UK= politics happily showing similar views.

    But I can't find hard data, so you could very well be right and his skin colour has nothing to do with it. Could just be a "I got the job cos I got lucky with the Brexit party" situation.

  • Prefer Hungarian myself but yeah kinda rumbled.

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