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The same people may however also drive with a car that is piping blue smoke from the exhaust. Even though their garage has already warned them the seals are definitely bust and if they don't get them fixed the whole engine is at risk but surely it'll do another few months...
Did they give one actual not speculative benefit?
Or are they complaining Remain is "project fear" but then when people point out tradedeals takes AGES and trade deals for services that the UK needs so benefits will take a long time that is also "project fear"? -
Did you really think I was being serious!
Poe’s Law etc
I had no idea that the brexit party had such a nuanced position on Iran.
Do they want to use that EU army they keep going on about to go and rescue them instead?
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Maybe you get one free article a week or something - I needed an FT article earlier this week, got in fine on Tuesday, blocked when I clicked again Wednesday...
@jellybaby ta.
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Largely nothing to do with the EU. Countries are left to their own devices. I suppose this is because of the large range of cost of living across the EU. I think some countries have minimum wages by sector and others (nordic?) have formed their own minimum wage alliance.
However, the EU is gradually working towards these principles being adopted across the board, eventually being ratified into a social rights treaty.
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This is a good read https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-political/files/conditions-of-employment_en.pdf
I reckon the European Pillar of Social Rights is a bit like the EU army. Just a hint that it might happen in the future but in reality we are decades away from it being popular enough to happen, if it ever does.
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AM: One of your first jobs [as PM] is go to Brussels and negotiate a new Brexit deal … In that context, is it your view that Britain is better off inside the European Union or better off, long-term, outside the European Union? Which?
JC: [It] depends on the agreement you have with the European Union outside.
AM: So we could be better off outside, therefore?
JC: Listen, what I’ve tried to do all along is recognise the result of the referendum and respect it. That’s what we said in our 2017 manifests, which is why we voted before that to invoke article 50 … We have consistently put forward what I believe to be a credible option, which is what we call the five pillars which is the customs union, the trade relationship, protection of consumer, environmental and workers’ rights, and of course, the Good Friday agreement and the peace process …
I recognise the majority of Labour party supporters and members support remain and supported remain, but a significant minority voted the other way.
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idk. But they are all valid questions, as well as what Brexit actually looks like. For eg I doubt a Norway-style model would be that devastating - Turkey-style? less positive.
I think whatshischops at the FT makes a good point about over blown forecasts, though.
When I chat to pro-Brexit people Project Fear is often brought up along with FTSE increase, lower inflation, and increased employment. When I point out that we haven't left yet, the stock response is basically "bollocks, that's not what Remain said. It was Armageddon the day after the referendum".
Honestly I can't remember if Project Fear did say that. But it highlights the issue with overstating your case, or crying wolf depending on your view.