EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

Mine is SGD to EUR

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Lyon?

Or Geneva?

Yeah, Switzerland isn't bad. Lausanne I can add to the list.
My gf hails from east of Lausanne. The quality of life is astounding and the landscape stunning.
Just a bit dull though, but I can see myself ending up in Switzerland sometime in my life..

The end?

Always thought it would be a good place if you had kids so no longer require access to anything fun or interesting anymore. It's also well located for when you do want to get away.

Plus, from the little I know, the schooling for small children seems really good - and fits with the sort of aspirational outdoors style of education that appeals to me.

My gf hails from east of Lausanne. The quality of life is astounding and the landscape stunning.

Just a bit dull though, but I can see myself ending up in Switzerland sometime in my life.

This is probably my post-Brexitapocalypse bailout option. I've never found Switzerland that dull. Although that may be a terrible indictment of how dull I am. It is rather unpleasantly racist at times, but the UK isn't looking too rosy in that department these days.

Luxembourg isn't bad. Bit quiet but the outdoors is nice, they like cyclists for the most part and they're reasonably expat friendly. Probably helps if you're in some sort of skilled non-manual job though. Cost of living is a bit high though.

This is worse than the homeowners thread.

Isn't it.

Hey look guys, I'm missing imminent destruction!

Hey, tone deaf liberals is an integral part of how we ended up in this shitty mess. They’re on a roll, why stop now?

Paddy Power are offering odds on which commodity UKGov will ration first. Although since Magnums are on the list, possibly not entirely serious.

Magnums! Good job I’ve stockpiled a few bottles in the wine fridge.

This is the second time you complain about liberals on this thread, but who do you mean?

Economic laissez-faire liberals I take it?

And how does this correlate to Brexit voters who are mostly Conservative/brexit party voters? (In the case of both of them, economic liberalism and social...well it's not even social conservatism any more, just dogwhistling/sloganism)

Not many of those in lfggs...or they don't admit it :) :)

I'm not begrudging people who can get out. Good for them. I can do without the brexit drama though...

I'm gonna go with bog roll ooh and bottled water once the treatment plants can't get their chemicals to treat the water. Woohoo!

In some ways I want a no deal Brexit. England deserves the biggest fuck off bloody nose, and Scotland can leave and fuck up Little Englanders even further..

Yeah. Sounds great. If evenhalf of what is written about the dire consequences of hard no deal Brexit are true, it's not a bloody nose. It'll be worse than the worst part of the Thatcher years. It'll cause more "them" and "us".
I'm not saying where we are now is right, but I think it's better than it could be.

The only way we'll get out of this hard line Conservative hole is if enough people feel the burn, they might think twice about being thick racist cunts in future 💁‍♂️

The problem is they will claim “look at wot those ghastly forrins made us do to ourselves” and thus perpetuate the racism suspicion and hatred.

Yes. I have to agree with DJ here.

But that's the narrative anyway, from the very top

I mean it in the sense big L liberalism, the political philosophy. The majority of Conservatives are still liberals, they are just right wing liberals (there’s a Libertarian and Fascist fringe obvs). Left liberals like to pretend the differences they have with right liberals are substantive, but they are in agreement on the main issues - the primacy of property rights and the market, the composition of government, the authority of the state - and agree on more than they disagree. see, for example, the way a left liberal recoils to the warm embrace of a Tory when presented with an actual socialist.

The term is a useful catch all for the gamut of mainstream/acceptable political opinion in the West. It’s also helpful to distinguish left liberals from the Left, which left liberals often like to imagine themselves as being part of.

The term is a useless catch all for the gamut of mainstream/acceptable political opinion you disagree with.

ftfy

Since when did liberal become some sort of insult? The dictionary definition makes liberal seem like a good thing:

willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas

US bollocks ain't it.

Ah, gotcha.

Are the Greens/Labour liberals or Left in that sense?

I don't think they are calling for abolishment of property rights.

I am not sure what to think lately, I always thought housing associations and strong government control are fine but perhaps it is not a structural solution in the end and anarcho-socialism is the only way. This is what happens if you listen to Youtube at work :)