EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

I think he [Rory Stewart] harks back to the best (read: worst) days of British Colonialism and so rates fairly highly for a certain group of people.

Reading the replies regarding this, it sounds like perfect conspiracy theory fodder. A grain of truth with a shed load of nonsense mixed in.

Thankfully this is why we have the House of Lords.

Farage would abolish this he said last night.

The UK has never matched the EU average turnout

He’s half Scottish so he won’t get the members votes- wasting his time to run now, in our most xenophobic period of recent memory.

We need Boris- as has been said, his brand of moral and ideaology free ambition makes him the only PM contender who will revoke in the belief that he can (essentially) just style it out afterwards. No referendum required.

Boris has always been about nothing but Boris - so I think @Dammit could be right that he is unlikely to want his brand to be associated with no deal Brexit.

If Boris is PM wave goodbye to Scotland...

McDonnell said they lose 4 voters to brexit per 1 remain voter to other parties.

So from a numbers pov it's not working, brexiters just want their brexit.

If Brexit is a mess say goodbye to NI as well (and Scotland a bit later)

Gibraltar? Not sure what it then left for them...hard border on tiny island depending on Spain for food, that'll be "fun"

That’s possible- but do you think that if The UK stays in the EU That would still have the appeal that it has now?

Savage Javid nailed on as PM surely?

Not a chance, he’s far too brown for the membership

Those Leave voters are probably more likely to come back to Labour after Brexit if Labour don't fully back a second referendum.

This is where a lot of urban middle class Labour supporters would say "Fuck it, we don't want them back anyway, they should do it." Often followed by something about all Brexiters are idiots, racist, etc. Which is also less likely to heal the divide.

On the one hand the chirality thing makes some sense, but on. Oh I can't be bothered.
Something something I voted to levo the EU.
Something something dex.

Nah, he has been positioning himself against brown people for quite a while so people can vote for him and sleep well at night knowing that they can't be racist because they voted for a brown person.

Disagree- he can cause as many brown babies to die as he likes, he’ll never be white enough for the Tory party membership.

Are they though?

Farage and the Brexit party aren't exactly living many Labour values.

Maybe you are right you can see with Trump voters that the picture can be complex.

Aligning yourself with Farage doesn't exactly speak "pro UK, pro immigrants, pro evidence" though. Or "pro NHS" or "anti austerity" (Farage says A but does B)

So either they don't mean it, and the divide can be healed or they are fine with what's he's been up to so far and won't come back to Labour ever.

Edit: on the note of calling leavers things, I live in NI and so far brexit makes everything worse. So, I don't call them names but they set something in motion that plain sucks and go lalala when it gets pointed out. I'm just out of patience

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-northern-ireland-politics-48367799

SF / DUP as always third seat to Alliance who are a second vote/remain party allied with libdems.

And one of the few parties really tackling sectarianism here. Greens were too far behind.

Given recent comments from Chukka regarding the labour leadership I would be very surprised if the Tories were more inclined than Lab to have an ethnic leader let alone PM.

I am struggling to get my head around Javid. Is he as smooth and slippery as he seems to me at fist glance? All career aspiration and very little individual character?

Ask yourself- can you say what he stands for, other than his own advancement?

He's perfect.

I'm convinced he will be PM.

He might be the Thatcher effect they're looking for

Rnige is clearly an invertebrate.
He has just undergone ecdysis.
He attempted to withdraw from public view, (after the Referendum),
nourished solely by £450k of support from Aaron Banks.
He has shed his carapace of kippy racism, leaving Gerard Batten, hermit crab-like,
to move in and find it was full of useless leeches and parasites.

Rnige then flashes his shiny, new brexit exoskeleton,
and adopting a policy-free campaign abandons the 3-4% of the electorate who are
irredeemable racists to ukip, and runs away with the Tories bedrock of support.

We will have to wait to see if the brexoskeleton has any longevity,
or,
itself will be shed in due course.
Whilst we are waiting, we need vigilance on the tweets and other pronouncements
of the raggedy band of brexitMEPs. They are bound to show their true colours
long before they are invited by the next Tory leader to 'help' with the brexit negotiations.