EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

May could have a vote tomorrow but talks about having a vote in two weeks.
She has had two years and done nothing except talk about what she will do soon, or in a few weeks, or after discussions.
Is there someone behind the scenes pulling her strings?
So all of a sudden she is going to fix everything in the extended time? Not likely! If the EU gives her six months the situation will be exactly the same as it is now.
Business hates uncertainty, and she has made uncertainty the norm. Hence, everyone who can is getting out.

Was there a peoples vote march yesterday? Haven't seen any coverage of it

Guardian article suggesting 21 month delay

There's one next month, 23rd off the top of my head.

I'm confusing a march, with March it seems. Christ I'm a moron no wonder I voted for Brexit.

Surely a 21mth delay still leaves no guarantee of breaking the impasse and before devoting another huge amount of time and resource to it, a second referendum should be held as there will be a stranglehold on focusing on real domestic issues that need to be addressed..

Is there someone behind the scenes pulling her strings?

Same 'people' that were getting her to backdoor mass surveillance powers and prepare for totalitarian control without parliament knowing when she was home secretary ?

https://www.businessinsider.com/yougov-poll-brexit-regret-remain-second-referendum-2019-2

If that is a new poll that has just been released, I think we will have to batten down the hatches for a fresh round of migrant boat and ISIS bride stories on Monday. It's pretty noticeable it happens whenever there's a new groundswell for Remain / Second Ref.

So true! Drives me mental.

The Remainers need to get solid sets of figures and positive arguments to rebuke the appeal to bigoted and xenophobic and misleading of ill informed mindsets that are being manipulated by that kind of stuff and the reporting of isolated stories which tarnish the whole immigrant populations and get this across sympathetic and independent media powerfully.

Maybe everyone here can dredge up as much old news reports etc and compile somewhere to make it easy for a starting point - there is stuff from a decade ago+ which highlighted the positive impact Poles had, and when they reversed the effect that it had on a lot of businesses which in some regions could no longer function without them. That's just one example.

And start promoting the embracing of everything good that the diversity has brought..I'm sure the 'get back on a boat' brigade love to engage in their vitriole over a curry.

What is national identity now? That's at the root of the division. 'British' is not being a tribal white working class guy, nor is it being a nostalgic silver spooned neo-colonialist. There are multiple generations of some immigrant communities that are equally British. The island itself has always been subject to waves of immigration over millenia.

Britishness is like pornography: you know it when you see it. And it gives the tory party a massive chubby.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47352446

Suggestions that a delay may be backed by a cross-party group.

Though it is re-arranging the deckchairs on the Titanic really, and Labour's "plan" is basically May's backstop in effect, which is economically not great.

Unless it opens the way to a people's vote on the WA...not yet sure how, though given more time it may happen.

But hei-ho, will of the people. Season 3 of "Brexit" remains nailbiting! ;)

Omg, if there actually is a delay of the Brexit deadline...

On the other hand, maybe they can then do a "no brexit month" in Parliament and take care of a few things that have been completely drowned out in the noise of the Brexit vuvuzelas?

re-arranging the deckchairs on the Titanic

good this!

ABI, Association of British Insurers,
reveal themselves to be whiny, traitorous anti WTO-ers;
'Like most business organisations, the Association of British Insurers has repeatedly spoken out in public about the dangers of a no-deal Brexit. But in a speech this evening its director general, Huw Evans, will go further than before, saying no deal would be “an unforgivable act of economic and social self-harm”. According to an extract released in advance, he will tell the ABI annual dinner:

A no-deal outcome would be an unforgivable act of economic and social self-harm. It would mean leaving the world’s single biggest trading block overnight with nothing but WTO rules to replace it.

This would be wholly inadequate and unprecedented. None of the EU’s 20 largest trading partners trade with the EU on solely WTO terms; they all have deeper agreements in place. And the WTO framework itself is designed to provide a mechanism for states to resolve trade disputes – it is not designed to be a safety net for the world’s fifth largest economy leaving the world’s biggest trading block. Nor do its rules guarantee market access for the services which make up four fifths of the UK economy. This matters because the EU is - by a very long distance - the largest export market for the UK insurance and long-term savings industry.

As an industry we have done everything possible to prepare for no deal, including transferring an estimated 29m insurance contracts and the establishment of nearly 40 EU subsidiaries and branches to minimise disruption to customers. But we still believe very strongly that a conscious decision to opt for no deal would be an act of economic recklessness our great country would live to regret with WTO rules offering little to no protection against the consequences. As a last resort, if the only alternative to no deal is some form of short delay to Brexit, then delay we should.'

from the Guardian,
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2019/feb/25/brexit-latest-news-developments-theresa-may-increasingly-likely-to-accept-article-50-extension-minister-suggests-politics-live

hard to believe this thread has been going for over 3 years and we still havent reached the aftermath part

I'm kinda glad, not looking forward to what awaits.

'On Brexit, she (May) says she has had good meetings with EU leaders here.'

'Good' = everyone was polite, (but clearly had other more importnat meetings both before and after), no one was deliberately late, no one was obviously offensive, no one swore at her,
but,
no one offered to re-write the backstop.

Will an article 50 extension require parliamentary support? We're fucked if it does.

'On Brexit, she (May) says she has had good meetings with EU leaders here.'

So nobody called her nebulous

Looking increasingly likely that an extension will be granted. Tusk's comments:

In order to put an end to speculation, I can say first of all that Prime Minister May and I discussed yesterday a lot of issues, including the legal and procedural context of a potential extension. For me it is absolutely clear that there is no majority in the House of Commons to approve a deal. We will face an alternative: a chaotic Brexit, or extension.

The less time there is until the 29 March, the greater is the likelihood of an extension. And this is an objective fact; not our intention, not our plan, but an objective fact.

I believe that in the situation we are in an extension would be a rational solution. But Prime Minister May still believes that she is able to avoid this scenario.

And I can assure you, and I did it also yesterday during my meeting with Prime Minister May, that no matter in which scenario it will be, all the [EU] 27 will show maximum understanding and goodwill.