EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

70 odd years since we were fighting for Europe and against Fascism, and now we're turning our back on Europe and flirting with far right ideals. Go Team GB.

^ Ironic that it is the post war baby boomers swinging the decision.

I'm 100% with @Velocio, it's such a backward step... Less borders, more tolerance... We're all the fucking same, FFS!?!

Boris is talking. His hair is still a mess. Is the scruffy hair a Trump type combover? He also uses a very good conditioner. The shine is amazing.

"Johnson says he agrees with Cameron’s decision not to immediately invoke article 50 to leave the EU." -> Johnson says he would quite like to eat some cake and also have some more later when he is leader?

^ Ironic that it is the post war baby boomers swinging the decision.

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Fewer.

Good comment from the FT

Scotland breaking up the UK?! Are you joking?

Vote leave folk in England are the ones responsible.

No I'm not joking, but then nor are "Scotland breaking up the UK" and "Vote Leave in England breaking up the UK" mutually exclusive. Both would have played an essential part.

No we are all not all the same. Some people are regressive assholes. I have to put up with the minority that is in NI, propped up by voters. That includes foreign USA assholes with their regressive arseholery form of Christianity that sees me as less of a person for being an atheist woman.

But that doesn't give anybody, including me, a right to deny them social housing, a job, healthcare, protection from discrimination and arseholery. As regressive assholes are equally entitled to all this. And I am their liberal immoral asshole so...we are always an asshole to some ;)

I quite agree that those in the `London Bubble' have refused to acknowledge any legitimacy in the disaffection felt by a significant amount of the electorate in the regions. For a decade or more now London has motored ahead with a burgeoning economy and culture in contrast to so many other parts of the UK. The map of majorities on the Guardian's front page sums it up all too nicely.
The wealthy parts of Oxfordshire, Cambridgeshire, London and the metropolitan areas in the North around Liverpool and Manchester are pretty obvious. There is a split in British politics that has been obvious enough since the Labour victory in 2005. It is almost entirely down to the long term employment status in those areas.
But, those upset at the loss of the Remain campaign are not upset for themselves, they are upset because those regions are going to be turned over even harder. Rental prices will increase, zero hour contracts will expand, services will be cut further because this result gives enormous momentum to a swing to far right politics in the UK.
If you earn less than 50k then this result is bad fucking news. The remain campaign could see that, the poor who voted out couldn't.
So no, I won't be trying to build any bridges right now as the future of millions people just took a turn for the worse.

Rough translation of Sturgeon's speech on right now is that Scotland and London will become break-away states of the Uk and remain in the EU.

Sturgeon confirms will seek Indyref2

The Scotland issue makes me saddest of all arising here. Half my family is scottish, my sister lives there, I go there to work and visit family often. I cant see a way of saving the union, though. They have every right to leave.

Or...

The only war is class war.

And the leading classes made the mistake of momentarily throwing a slither of power to the lower classes, who seized their opportunity.

A protest vote gone wrong.

That guy on Sky news, "I voted leave, I'm shocked that it counted, I thought we would remain".

Muppet.

No need to invoke Article 50?
What you upto then cunts?

*Turns M60 into wall.*

My industry's reaction to the news is one of general disappointment, as expected.

I won't be trying to build any bridges right now as the future of millions people just took a turn for the worse.

This statement baffles me.

The long game of negotiation.

The referendum is advice to parliament, parliament can return to the EU and strike a better bargain, return to the UK population and say there's no need now... we have a better deal. Throw a second ref out and keep playing until the desired win is achieved.

Sinkholes.

I'd prefer zero borders but, y'know...

That it's a hope....

BTW, I enjoyed to read this: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/it-will-take-an-age-to-recover-from-this-victory-for-the-exit-fantasists-zzfpxsc66

A lot of people are very angry and need to work through that before moving on.

In fairness, a lot of things baffle you.

The old joke that we might need a passport to visit Scotland is looking like it might come true!