EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

'liberal UK'?
The people have just spoken with the voice of Alf Garnett.

English?

Trying to be optimistic: Maybe the massive shock will make us realise we can't go it alone, and convince people that the Tories are the problem, not foreign powers or people.

The people are frightened, disillusioned and angry. But if we write our own electorate off as racist and evil there is no hope.

BoJo 9/4 favourite for tory leadership with the same bookmaker who had remain at . 25

Make of that what you want.

I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.

It doesn't help business or you and I.
I'd be very worried if I had a mortgage right now

We do. We are.

Who short sold pounds yesterday then?

All the red ochre miners, I know, did.

Is there an equivalent £3 Tory membership?

You numpty.

I wish I had...

Good read

https://medium.com/mosquito-ridge/brexit-wins-an-illusion-dies-b60b6efad2d7#.98izs2393

It is:

Ultimately, as I’ve written before, there is a strong case for “Lexit” on grounds of democracy and economic justice. But this won’t be Lexit. Unless Labour can win an early election it will be a fast-track process of Thatcherisation and the breakup of the UK.
Unlike me, however, many people who believe in Lexit were prepared to vote alongside right wing Tories to get to first base.

They won't, it will still won't change further.

Calling this majority of people dullards or racists isn't helpful. It's time to listen, to talk and to build, literally and figuratively. And to redistribute our wealth more equally and fairly

Yea. This.

Like that his 10 point suggestion is actually 11.

\m/

Thatcherisation

That word doesnt mean what you think it does.

(if you meant the advancement of neocon policies)

trigger interest rate rises

Sterling is apparently being priced with 2 successive rate cuts...

Tell me what I think it meant, and I'll tell you whether I think you're right.

There is some kind of joke about Sterling being over valued and diving...

football thread>>>>>

Shameless self promotion as it is my sale on eBay;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/-/122025260440?

Right well done, you will lose Scotland and NI unless this optimism of socialism comes together.

An English acquaintance from me came back to England and he said he didn't recognize the place so many bigots/racism.

"9. Offer the Republic of Ireland an immediate enhanced bilateral deal to keep the border open for movement and trade."

But there are no guarantees on that. The EU calls the shots.

Lexit is blind faith. Unless there's a clear cross section with exits and a vote for the labour party (and they will actually VOTE for it)

If the whole of the UK was like Scotland, then no. It would not be blind faith but a good reasonably likely opportunity. Right now, I consider it too unlikely.