EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

I guess they risk no longer being 'on the payroll' if the next person in decides they want someone else to do a given roll.

On the payroll means you’re part of the government (for which you are paid more).

But would you expect to lose your role in said government if the Somerset child-catcher became PM?

Also john Barnes better than Chris waddle.

Never even an argument. John Barnes was always better than Chris Waddle.

Presumably Gazza isn't being allowed on tw@tter by his lawyers at the moment...

He'd have to try very hard not to pick at least a fair chunk of them. With a large proportion excluding themselves either by outstanding 'disciplinary issues', skeletons not wanted to be out of the cupboard (but known about by the whips' office), inability to string a complete sentence together or sheer laziness, there are only probably only about 30% of the parliamentary party capable of holding a crayon.

Of those who voted for May,

140 are on the Governmental payroll,

That assumes that all 140 voted for May. Which is very far from guaranteed. Indeed, the chances of them all voting for her I would put at very roughly nil.

Cabinet ministers get about double the pay of ordinary MPs, junior ministers get about 50% more, loads of other MPs get supplements for various government jobs.
Rees Mogg claims these people only voted for May to protect their salaries. It is a specious argument which exposes JRM's fundamental nastiness. We could equally say that all the anti May votes were cast by people who thought they would get their hands on that extra cash.
I think it is outrageous that Andrew Neil and other journos let JRM get away with this. They should have pressed him on his and ERG's failure, having set up a challenge, they lost and May's leadership is guaranteed for the next year.

Rees Mogg claims these people only voted for May to protect their salaries. It is a specious argument which exposes JRM's fundamental nastiness. We could equally say that all the anti May votes were cast by people who thought they would get their hands on that extra cash.

I would suggesd it also alludes to some of his own major motivations in life. Judge people by your own standards, etc...

So he expects Turkeys to vote for Christmas? Riiiiight

So, RE the timeline...the EU parliament still have to vote on this withdrawal agreement, which hasn't even passed the UK vote.

As this is the part where people sit that directly represent us (the EU Parliament is more a country leaders group) all these delays mean we have very little time left to enact change there.

And not all citizen rights are actually covered either, if you have a British partner / are British and go to mainland EU with your EU partner / you are from the EU the British person will fall under 3rd country immigration law after March 2019.

It all leaves very little time for our MEPs to make any changes.

I don't know if had she lost the vote there is a period of stasis until a new leader is elected, or 'traitors' are sacked in a last show of power.

Would those on the payroll have been sacked if May went?

It's supposedly a secret ballot, so it's easy to go in and say one thing and vote a different way.

[EDIT] I love the fact that Ian Blackford tried to sneak in to the room to vote in the confidence ballot.

It is easy to assume that the Executive is just the Cabinet (about 20?), which itself grows over time as ministries are split, (the Home Office begat the Ministry of Justice), and May created the Department of Exitting the EU.
However all the junior ministers who believe they are on a career path are locked in to voting with the Government which adds a third dimension to whether MPs are elected because of their own personal opinions, (which may/may not map onto the most recent GE manifesto), or, are delegates who should vote according to views of their constituents. Expanding the Executive to 140 undermines Parliamentary democracy as these 140 now have no opportunity, beyond resigning, to express any view contrary to that of the Government.

Yep,
We'll never know how many of the Cabinet voted for May.

Is a government executive of 140 considered to be an excessive number ? compared to labour when they were in power ?

Even Theresa May refused to say how she voted!

Meanwhile, back in the real world:
https://twitter.com/BorderIrish/status/981882290707091456/photo/1

No vote in the commons until January.

May survives and kicks the can down the road again.

Happy to be corrected but iirc the real expansion was under Blair, so if you find the answer it would also be good to at least compare it to Major's executive.

I do not know the history of the growth of the Executive. As @hugo7 says maybe Blair contributed to it.

Secretballotissecret!
Although given the probable nunber of maladroit crayon-handlers within the electorate I'm surprised there weren't any spoilt ballots.

This contains a few home truths;

https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-britain-small-boring-and-stupid-theresa-may-eu-withdrawal-deal/amp/

I don’t. Politics should be a serious and honourable endeavour, not a place for public school style jolly japes.

Not sure I can say I 'enjoyed' that but I appreciated it.

Good if solidly depressing read.