EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

Well yes; but I’m not having 60% of our fish caught by Euro boats legalised by drunken Juncker.

They sell 460.000 tons to Europe. Is that a lot?

https://www.taz.de/Fischereipolitik-der-EU/!5554313/

Who posted that comment about the €39 billion being approximately 1% of the GDP of the EU, or similar?

Someone is wrong on Facebook.......

He is a very nasty bit of work....it cannot be genetic as I once worked with his daughter and she was ok (ish).

WTFIGO intensifies... :(

What a circus! And we all have tickets, whether we want to go or not.

wtAfigo

And next into the big top, Lloyd Russell-Moyle (no, me neither) with some mace juggling...

https://twitter.com/dcakraemer/status/1072234234901860353 for the video...

I didn't say he was any good. Not really on the Heseltine scale.

You must have a short memory, he was the MP who revealed he was HIV positive just last week.

Very short memory or missed that one. Thanks, will read up.

Can someone explain what the fuck is going on and what is going to go on?

Theresa May said she was definitely going to do one thing and then did another, because reality came along and punched her right in her weirdly emotionless face. That is what went on and, most likely, what will go on in future.

This has totally fucked my flow charts.

Well fuck my flow charts!

I like that, I may start using it in conversation.

You'd need to know people first.

I actually audibly gasped when I saw the mace grab.

Part of May's statement to the house

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It seems to be a common misconception that no deal will just magically happen if the government doesn't do anything.

What on earth do you mean, 'magically happen'? It's not 'magical' at all - if no one does anything, no deal is agreed upon, and if no deal is agreed upon, there we have the 'no-deal' scenario. It's not an actual 'option', it's the default that happens if nothing else happens, the one option no one has to do anything for. That's the threat of the deadline there.

Holy crap, I think those are the clearest words I have ever seen her utter... and she's not wrong about some of it either, just the conclusions are fucked.

I wonder if the point is that parliament can block any government movement towards an "orderly" no-deal brexit and, if they do so, that would make no-deal so utterly chaotic that the government would be forced to find another avenue (revoke or delay article 50, people's vote etc.)

I find it extremely difficult to believe that the country can put up with being 'led' by such a consistently poor decision-maker for very much longer.

Pulling a vote and being quite open about it being pulled because she thought she would lose it?

Absolutely unbelievable.

Only about 2 years too late to be of any impact

Well, however that would happen though, in the end the key is still that government would have to do something. It'd also be great if it was the case that government is reasonable enough to never let a no-deal happen anyway, but that scenario also relies on someone doing something. But if everyone were to hibernate until 30/03/19 and therefore do nothing, we'd definitely be faced with a no-deal scenario, magically or not...

@branwen True that. It's not like I will ever support May or even think about supporting May, but after years and years of hearing 100% deflection and 'Brexit means Brexit' and similar hogwash, these are incredibly clear words...

You have to ask, if May is willing to fuck herself over this much - by refusing to hold a vote in the Commons, because she'll lose and then the shit will hit the fan - why doesn't she just not fucking do Brexit? Well,

She takes a position and then she sticks to it, seeing it as a matter of principle that she delivers on what she has committed to. This doesn’t mean that she is a conviction politician. Often she arrives at a position reluctantly after much agonising – as home secretary she became notorious for being painfully slow to decide on matters over which she had personal authority. Many of the positions she adopts are ones she has inherited, seeing no option but to make good on other people’s promises.

Taken from here